The press nominate an all male line up for BBC sports personality of the year

[ivykaty44]

hardly wonderful news for encouraging young girls to get interested in sport and have positive role models.
We have some world class female sports woman and they have been overlooked

cycling, swimming and triathlon and they get shunned by an all make line up

why?

But three male golfers.

FFS.

I agree with the posters who say that the main problem here is lack of promotion of female athletes and most importantly lack of coverage of female sporting events. How often do see a female only tennis tournament on TV, but quite a few of the male only ones get live coverage, even on terrestial tv sometimes.

I'm not even watching SPOTY if all it's going to be is apologetic video clips and 'to camera' pieces by female athletes and presenters.

The BBC can fuck off.

And yes, you can quote me on that, Jeremy Vine.

I've always thought a personality award should be for the person you'd most like to be sat next to at a dinner party. And none of the shortlist strike me as fitting the bill. ESPECIALLY GOLFERS!

Is the short-list in actual recognition of the achievements of various sports people through-out the year? Or is it a popularity contest?

Jeremy Clarkson and his views .... He is the ultimate troll best to treat him as one and ignore, ignore ignore.

Balanced voting from the sporting experts at Manchester Evening News...

Dimitar Berbatov - rarely plays first team football
Paul Scholes - retired footballer
Patrick Vieira - another retired footballer, now a football development executive

The regional newspapers all show a bias towards their own to some extent, which is understandable. So do Nuts and Zoo, so the answer is clearly to have some women's magazines too.

Regarding the achievement v personality thing, I read a while ago that it's supposed to be about achievement only. 'Personality' is just a bad name choice, apparently.

I love Boffin's idea of doing our own MN award,that'd be great. A webchat with some sportswomen would be great too.

Embarrassed I don't know this - are there are women's sports mags?

yes there are magazines aimed at woman for sport

The triathlon mags although not aimed at woman have a large amount of stuff inside the cover for woman by woman and that is one of the reasons I buy them over cycling mags which are more biased towards men, though womans stuff does feature

Nuts and Zoo are hardly men's sports magazines, though, are they?

Why not let MN per se have a vote?

Thanks Ivykaty :) I wasn't meaning to imply that Nuts and Zoo were sports mags! I've just taken up running and would like to read more about it butdidn't know if there was anything aimed at women.

alma try Women's Running magazine. It's really good.

There was a good article and some letters about this in today's Guardian.

The gist being: It's unacceptable that a public broadcasting company chooses to edit out women's sport and sporting achievements. Airbrushed from airtime. And then uses that very act of alienation to justify the exclusion of women from the Spoty final shortlist.

That's it in a nutshell.