Osborne to announce free childcare for 2 year olds

[OliviaMumsnet]

In the Autumn Statement the Chancellor will outline a £650 million scheme to provide free early education for about 40 per cent of two year-olds.

Just wondering what MNers think about this....

It would probably be a good thing for children to coerce certain sections of the population into the workforce while putting their children into FT high-quality daycare. But this announcement does nothing to help that happen, IMO.

i hope they bloody do read mumsnet you know?

listen clearly - WE DON"T BELIEVE ANY OF THE SHIT THAT IS COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS AND WE SEE THE ABSOLUTE LACK OF INTELLIGENCE AND JOINED UP THINKING BEHIND ALL THESE BULLSHIT SPINS PLEASE CREDIT US WITH SOME INTELLIGENCE YOU PATRONISING INSULTING BASTARDS.

understand if anyone wants to report this post but i'm so FFS ish about it now.

if you have money to burn on childcare give it to poor working class couples and single parents who need it. but you're taking away childcare funding form them saying we can't afford it then throwing money at bs silly PR schemes instead.

i don't how they sleep at night.

(well i know they sleep on the kind of lovely comfy beds that a minimum salary of 60k+ can buy you. maybe that helps )

yes kate - the cutting of surestart and of the childcare element of working tax credit and then this??? twats

One of the big differences between the UK and France is that in the UK we want to believe that parents are generally going to do a good job of parenting; in France, parents haven't been trusted to do a decent job of parenting since time immemorial! Not that I think that the French state has got it totally sussed, of course, but for the great majority of people the crèche/school system did work for many years...

In the cold light of day, I just feel so bloody tired of it all

yeah you don't get to piss about umming and ahing over immunisations in france - you have them or you don't get into a childcare establishment for one example. my sisters kids lived there till they were about 3.

me too AF. it is tiring and sickening and if it makes a well qualified mid thirties woman like me feel disenfranchised and cynical of the whole damn thing imagine what it does to a teenager?

sorry for my negativity - i shall go and find a corner to mutter into

I think he needs to look carefully at the system which is already in place for 3 year olds which is currently not working - and leading to the closure of some pre-schools/a two tier system, because the funding is insufficient, rather than extending a system which currently does not work to younger children.

I agree that solving the childcare issue is something which needs to be resolved - I would have thought that tax relief or extending vouchers would also be something they could have considered?

that would be far too obvious teddy! and then the well educated mum's who they want to stay home and run the country for free might get ideas about actually getting out and doing a decent job that they want to save for men

I am feeling extremely negative at the moment

I am all over the boards, ranting and bringing everyone down

It's the approach of that most wonderful of times. Does it to me every year. Doesn't this year feel so much worse though ? Or do I need to see my doc and get me some happy pills ?

the happy pills aren't even working here af so i'd save yourself the bother and difficulty climaxing and just go for a walk if i were you.

and climax lots. that's always a winner in hard times when you can't afford to go out

right, i'm losing the plot now, apologies.

Honestly I feel I should do something. But where to begin? No point joining the Lib Dems and Labour were more Tory than the Tories at times.

Is there a "Stop robbing those in need while bailing out your rich mates with our money" party? I'd join that.

i'm even considering getting a boyfriend - that's how bad times are!

Perhaps we need a What is the world coming to? thread?

or 'ways not to let the bastards get you down' thread?

what we should have done for this teacher strike day is deliver all of our school children to westminster for the day.

I can't think where the money is coming from. I thought the govt. needed to conserve every spare penny and cut existing serivces.

Aside from that, Children have been shown to benefit from nursery/similar once they are 3 (in govt. studies). Not sure who free childcare for 2yos is helping. If you go back to work following maternity leave, you have max. a year. So not sure this is helping people return to their existing jobs.

??

Here is an example of how it works in Norway their school day ends at 2p.m and they have after school care until no later than 4.30 p.m.

In Norway flexible working and 37.5 hr working week is common, with no encouragement to work longer hours. It is a good system, but for children aged 6 - 9 years.

How will they work out who is entitled? Speed read the article and could see who will actually get it?

it's a small cut of bill for the middle classes who are already in good jobs and paying huge childcare fees and will see a percentage cut in their costs by being allocated 15hrs or whatever they're suggesting of funding. that's it. it will make put back in their pocket the CB they've lost and the token amount of CTC they use to qualify for.

it does absolutely zilch for families trying to get back to work or single mums, parents with health problems etc who need to be able to work part time and afford childcare etc.

exactly AF - i am going to have to get back into sex (and the putting up with a smelly boy that goes with it) purely because it's the only pleasure that is going to be left to us soon

but maybe that's their cunning plan!!! make single mum's and the disabled and those of us unlucky enough to be both so miserable that they'll start shagging and be tricked into relationships so the state doesn't have to support them anymore!