God, those NoW journos were utter scum weren't they?

[headfairy]

apparently by deleting Milly's messages her family still had some hope that she might still be alive

Fabulously NOTW post Natters!

chip whether he was at the party or not does not matter; neither does what we think of him. He's staked his political career on taking on RM. There's no turning nack now for him; there really can't be.

Natters all I have in my head now is the theme tune from that programme my kids love - "sorry I've got no head" - and them going "Wiiitch!!!!"

Tom Watson is indeed coming out of this extremely well, Scarletbanner.

chip some reporting has also suggested that if you received an invitation to an RM/NI/RB party you accepted whether you liked it or not. bit like the mafia, people were persuaded to do what they were told!

agreed Scarlet and Araz re Tom Watson - he looked so shocked at the GB story details.

He has a track record of being indefatigable. And he appears to be a good MP.

from NI to FIFA on newsnight. arf.

No to 'burn the witch'. RB will hardly be able to go out again without bodyguards anyway. (unless she has a big haircut and dye). She may well end up being 'the fall guy' (have I got that right?) and a very well paid one.
No fan of RB but I don't want her to a well rewarded scapegoat.

(if I was selling the book with all of the royal phone numbers, I would want enought to retire on, not £1000! Who was that? Was it the 63 year old arrested last week?)

Comments on the NYT are interesting. Would RM have been allowed to acquire his US interests if the US public had known what he was prepared to do?

Every day something new comes out. Surely Brooks can't hang on for much longer?

I cannot help but wonder what on earth will get revealed tomorrow. Bugging the Vatican to listen in on the Pope?!

The Vatican have already made RM a papal knight, for his generous donations to LA RC Cathedral. He is not a Catholic. It was on 'thought of the day', this morning. The Pope is onside.

Oh Lord, is there anyone RM can't get to?!

Terrible burn the witch was tongue in cheek (at least for me, not sure about natters ). but make no mistake, she will be handsomely rewarded for her loyalty and for being the lightning rod for a lot of the flack received by NI

oh good lord, you couldn't make all this up, could you?

Gordon Brown was outraged in 2006 after learning that the Sun had obtained the medical records of his infant son and wanted to issue a pre-emptive statement, BBC Newsnight political editor Michael Crick has been telling Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight.
Rebekah Brooks (left), then editor of the newspaper, was so frighted that such as statement would ruin a Sun 'exclusive' that she called Damian McBride, one of Gordon Brown's closest lieutenants, and got "quite heavy", according to Crick.
The Guardian reported earlier today that Brooks contacted Gordon and Sarah Brown in October 2006 to tell them that they had obtained details from the medical file of their four-month-old son, Fraser, which revealed that the boy was suffering from cystic fibrosis.
Gordon Brown was outraged in 2006 after learning that the Sun had obtained the medical records of his infant son and wanted to issue a pre-emptive statement, BBC Newsnight political editor Michael Crick has been telling Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight.

Rebekah Brooks (left), then editor of the newspaper, was so frighted that such as statement would ruin a Sun 'exclusive' that she called Damian McBride, one of Gordon Brown's closest lieutenants, and got "quite heavy", according to Crick.

The Guardian reported earlier today that Brooks contacted Gordon and Sarah Brown in October 2006 to tell them that they had obtained details from the medical file of their four-month-old son, Fraser, which revealed that the boy was suffering from cystic fibrosis.

kevin whathisname the ed of the mirror has just said on sky that RB went after Brown because he was a rival to her Tony!!!!!!!!! wtf!!!!! Said she was incredibly close to Tony. Maybe thats why the sun switched to the torys coz Rb didnt like gordon.

switching was RB's idea, chipstick - she persuaded JM who then persuaded RM - according to something I found earlier today (but no idea which thread I was on at the time )

needs to be questioned: Piers Morgan, Phil Hall, Neil Wallis - how convenient they all bailed out

oh it was this thread (I just found it)

\link{http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/apr/22/james-murdoch-independent-dodge-city\James Murdoch having a go at the Indie editor}

'Brooks persuaded James Murdoch to throw the company's weight behind Cameron's Conservatives and the young Murdoch persuaded his father. The magnate does not like bad advice, says Woolf.'

I saw Piers Morgan say, on the closure of the NOTW, how gutted he was and that "he has a lot of respect for the Murdoch family."

That says all you need to know about Piers Morgan.

So is Crick basically saying that RB told the prime minister, via a colleague, that he was not allowed to put out his own statement about his son's medical condition because it would spoil a newspaper's exclusive story? And effectively gave away in doing so that her organisation had illegally obtained the child's medical records? And nothing happened as a result of this at the time?

We really do live in strange times. Police, MPs, journalists: virtually no one, with the exception of s few individuals, has kept their hands clean. Ugh.

I've just had a spideysense tingle about the "in a year's time".

? It doesn't sound like just more revelations - why say a year?

? Brooks is clearly immensely personally close and important to RMurdoch, and both JMurdoch and an analyst have muttered something about her being in charge of some transition or integration within NI. She must be key to some business plan, not just personally close (or she could be pensioned or repositioned).

? The BSkyB thing is so important RM has put it on ice with the Competition Commission rather than let go.

It's all adding up to something big.

My guess is a legal/structural challenge on the position of the BBC. I think Murdoch thinks he has some way of attacking and undermining the Beeb, displacing it from "national broadcaster" status in the same way the NHS is now under attack (Tories have stated that they want "NHS" to become merely a brand name under which private companies deliver services).

This is wild speculation, of course. But I thought I'd share my delusional ramblings with a discerning audience.

Brown was not the Prime Minister at the time of the story about Fraser

Thisisanicecage - I ran that past dh and he told me I was delusional.