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2 more police dogs have died after being left in the car by their handler!!

55 replies

ledkr · 28/06/2011 08:08

How can this keep happening?How can you just forget you have 2 massive dogs in the back of your van that you work with everyday.
Im not a particular dog lover but god this makes me soooo angry.

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ledkr · 28/06/2011 09:15

Surely ocd would mean hed be less likely to forget them.
shoesy that was how i felt,he could forget awhole load of stuff on the job.

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ggirl · 28/06/2011 09:15

wish I could find the article about children left in car

ggirl · 28/06/2011 09:16

well depends what he was Ocd about really, obvioulsy not checking the car

diddl · 28/06/2011 09:16

That was a different case I think, ggirl

ggirl · 28/06/2011 09:17

what the ocd one? aaah

bibbitybobbityhat · 28/06/2011 09:20

You are confusing two news stories on this thread. The man who did it this time is not the same one as 18 months ago.

Debs75 · 28/06/2011 09:20

Diddl If they get to an incident and the dogs aren't needed maybe the policeman is, he is a policeman first and a dog handler second. Same as the mounted policeman.

Ledkr I am a bit OCD but I don't have the sparkling house most OCD's have

ggirl · 28/06/2011 09:20

They should have to account for the wherabouts of their dogs when they reach their destination , training centre,crime scene whatever.So he'd be reminded and have to take them out. Like an ID check but a 'show us yer dogs' check.

ledkr · 28/06/2011 09:25

Debs i am too,house is not to my liking due to new baby but it never ceases to annoy me Grin
The police certainly need to look at some procedure for this but then thats true for alot of things.
Where is valhala ?

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diddl · 28/06/2011 09:32

True, ggirl, but then aren´t police "dog" vans safe for them to be left in?

In this case & the other one I think dogs were in the handlers own cars.

Boozilla · 28/06/2011 10:12

The dogs were in his own car, not a regulation vehicle as it turns out. The dog vehicles are apparently fitted with air conditioning and a key fob linked to a device inside the car that alerts the handler to any temperature changes.

This case was a combination of him forgetting about them and them not being in a regulation vehicle.

What really pisses me off is that apparently "The Independent Police Complaints Commission said it was aware of the incident but would not be investigating."

So he just gets away with it then. Hmm

diddl · 28/06/2011 10:15

But how does that work when the handler isn´t in the car, I wonder?

Boozilla · 28/06/2011 10:24

Must be some sort of temperature sensor that is linked to a key fob the handler carries, bit like a baby monitor I suppose! I imagine the air con must be set up that it can still work when the engine is not on.

All in all it's his neglect and poor judgement that has led to an agonising death for those poor dogs. Disgraceful.

Shoesytwoesy · 28/06/2011 11:29

sorry re read my link and yes it was another policeman.
but that alos begs the question as to why wasn't something done to stop it happening again after that.

randomness · 28/06/2011 12:43

ggirl is it this article? I'll never forget it, truly truly horrifying.

The line about 'if you're capable of forgetting your phone, you're capable of forgetting your child' terrifies me.
As a fairly scatty person I can't choose not to forget important things just because they're important, when I forget I forget, it's just gone.

Phone on kitchen worktop instead of in handbag, baby/dog sleeping out of sight in back of car instead of dropped off at nursery/put in kennels. Same thing, only the outcome is different :(

AnonymousBird · 28/06/2011 13:01

Jeremy Vine just mentioned that this police handler in today's case HAS been disciplined when a spaniel puppy died in his car/van 5/6 years ago. So this exact guy has done this before.... which is quite unbelievable.

Jesus, those poor animals. Sad

ilovesprouts · 28/06/2011 13:10

should be charged we neglet ,if it was joe blogs etc he would have been poor dogs :(

Debs75 · 28/06/2011 13:15

That link is horrifying, is really horrifying. I remember my mum telling us if we fell asleep in the car she would often leave us instead of waking us up.

The police needs to do something about this, whether with disciplining or re-training. I would like to see if the RSPCA get involved.

ggirl · 28/06/2011 13:24

randomness yes that's the article, thanks for finding it

yy heard Vine on radio saying he had done it before..wonder who's right?

Avantia · 28/06/2011 13:37

Just because the independent police complaints authority are noit looking into it doesn' mean he will get away with it . Police have their own internal complains / discipline dept ' Professional Standards' so no doubt they will deal with him.

ledkr · 28/06/2011 16:44

Hope its more effectively than before tho eh? He will probably get off due to his botched suicide attempt tho.

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Northernlurker · 28/06/2011 16:59

What is he supposed to 'get off' from then? He made a mistake. People make mistakes. It happens. From all the information available it seems that he did not wilfully harm these animals so what exactly is it that he is accused of?

DooinMeCleanin · 28/06/2011 17:03

The same deadly mistake, twice? You'd make that 'mistake' again after the first innocent dog died at your hands?

It's not a mistake it's criminal negligence, at best. The fact that this is the second time, to me proves he is either incredibly dim or he just does not give a shit about the animals in his care.

Would it still be just a 'mistake' if a mother killed three of her children, in two seperate incidents?

LolaRennt · 28/06/2011 17:03

Is nobody reading my point about leaving children in cars? People forget sometimes. Usually when their routine has been disrupted in some way and they go on to 'autopilot'.This is a tragedy not intentional cruelty.

Once was an accident. Twice makes him a fuckwit who will hopefully never be allowed in charge of animal again

RobF · 28/06/2011 17:04

I think the guy needs to be taken off animal handling and put back on the beat.