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Daily Mail fail

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Gooseberrybushes · 26/04/2011 06:59

Have just done the usual check around the papers and wanted mners to respond to a query if you can.

Re Daily Mail: the most important story of the day is not the lead, unsurprisingly, nor anywhere near it. It seems an average day for the Mail. There is the usual celebrity bilge down the right column.

So I was wondering, in terms of news choices and news coverage, what kind of thing is being objected to and on what grounds.

For eg: there's a story about school heads being paid over 100,000 a year. If you really hate the Mail, can you explain why in terms of specific stories.

Thanks. I'm neutral, I read all the papers (well not cover to cover but I get across them all online to get a rounded view.

In case this counts: my chosen paper would be the Telegraph, favoured media the BBC and out of the Guardian and the Indie, I'd take the Indie.

I wonder if anyone will respond!

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eggsit · 27/04/2011 19:33

Nancy66 Mail Online is a totally different entity to the newspaper - it's very showbiz driven and contains a massive amount of content that does not appear in the newspaper.

So the picture of Jesus's face on a jelly bean in the newspaper over Easter was quality journalism then?

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Gooseberrybushes · 27/04/2011 19:34

The exposure for example of vested interests on MPs' committees concerned with vaccine approval, the swine flu vaccine story, that sort of thing.

More generally I would say local authorities which will always and forever need the piercing light of exposure on their activities, quangoes, the BBC (much as I love R4) etc. These are bodies that need to be afraid and aware, and never complacent, that spending irresponsibility is at risk of exposure.

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Gooseberrybushes · 27/04/2011 19:36

They've also had a go at Green and his activities, they haven't been as good on Blair's mysterious financial dealings as they should have, but they will go for the corporate if they can as well as the public sector. It's all two fingers - if they can have you, they will.

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Gooseberrybushes · 27/04/2011 19:38

Was that question for me, eggsit?

Papers have moved on since the Times C1860. Sometimes they run stories intended to amuse. Isn't it awful

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eggsit · 27/04/2011 19:42

No Gooseberry, it was just a rhetorical question following Nancy66's comment on the online paper being much better quality than the newpaper!

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Gooseberrybushes · 27/04/2011 19:43

Aha

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Nancy66 · 27/04/2011 19:46

following Nancy66's comment on the online paper being much better quality than the newpaper

...i actually said the complete opposite

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Gooseberrybushes · 27/04/2011 19:56

Yes you did.

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eggsit · 27/04/2011 19:57

? This is what you said:
'Online is staffed by a very young, inexperienced team who make loads of cock ups'

Nancy66 · 27/04/2011 20:01

exactly - online is inferior.

Not sure how you can misinterpret that...

eggsit · 27/04/2011 20:14

And you think a story about Jesus's face being found on a jelly bean is a 'superior' news story? It was in the newspaper.

Nancy66 · 27/04/2011 20:16

it's a bit of lightness....so what? it's a tabloid. You want serious buy the FT

claig · 27/04/2011 22:08

Gooseberrybushes, I was only joking about the oxymoron aspect. The Daily Mail can never fail, because it is a great paper, in my opinion. The responses have been fairly predictable in their disapproval of the Mail and aren't representative of the population as a whole, but that is normal on MN.

I think you have borne the brunt of some nasty comments, because you are seen as partial to the Mail.

The Mail contains light stories such as Jesus's face on the jelly bean as well as deeper political stories. That is why it sells in huge numbers. It appeals to many different people. It covers everything from the light-hearted to the serious. Ok, it's not po-faced. If you want that, try the Guardian.

claig · 27/04/2011 22:17

People like to laugh, they like stories about kindness and wonder. That's why the Mail has stories of jellybeams or pets that help their owners or other acts of goodness. There are stories about celebrities and actors etc. The Mail reader can only take so much of Gordon Brown, whereas the Guardian reader can never get enough of him.

mashpot · 27/04/2011 22:22

The Mail is the last place I would turn if I wanted a story of kindness and wonder - my God, that is a joke!

ivykaty44 · 27/04/2011 22:29

In real life I have heard far more harsh comments about the DM than on mn and form surprising quarters.

I think excoticfruits summed it with it feeds peoples prejudices, the DM is clever in that it writes what is wanted and gives people the news in a way it is wanted, a bit of doom and gloom, a bit of blame that section of society for are woe's, put these people down and it will make us feel better about ourselves.

claig · 27/04/2011 22:45

This is from today's Mail and is a good cheerup story is typical of what many readers like to read. They need cheering up after seeing the picture of Gordon brown and reading about how he wasn't invited to the wedding.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1381183/Pet-dog-saves-owners-life-smelling-breast-cancer.html

Today's paper also has a great positive story about 3 brave female police officers
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1381109/Meet-3-hero-WPCs-brushed-aside-shotgun-corner-fleeing-armed-robbers.html

and here is a story from today's paper which is a typical Mail story about the ever-amazing wonders of the politically correct thought and language police

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1381136/Are-pets-really-companions-Academics-new-PC-vocabulary-dub-vermin-free-range-animals.html

The Mail has it all. That's why people choose to read it from front to back. They decline free offers of other papers, because in comparison they find them back to front.

ivykaty44 · 27/04/2011 22:49

My wife calls me pet... this is what a daily mail reader said after reading claigs last story

claig · 27/04/2011 23:02

Was that reader John Prescott?

ivykaty44 · 27/04/2011 23:03

why, does John Prescott read the DM?

claig · 27/04/2011 23:06

I would imagine so, if he wants to remain informed.

ivykaty44 · 27/04/2011 23:12

I guess so, where else would you find out about renaming pets companions, who got to go to the wedding in your old bosses place and whether Bristol Palin supports gay marriage There aren't any relevant boxing matches listed though?

GrimmaTheNome · 27/04/2011 23:21

'Companion animals' has been a PC alternative to 'pet' for years - is this news?

claig · 27/04/2011 23:24

Politicians need to keep in touch with the views of the people while riding in their chauffeur driven jags. That's why they read the Mail to find out what the people think and care about. Not all of the people are interested in heavy political topics. The Mail caters for all of the people. It has light stories and deeper stories. Miliband admitted that labour lost touch with the people over civil liberties and immigration. I am sure that some of his thinktank now read the Mail to keep their fingers on the pulse. It's no use them reading the Guardian. That's just preaching to the converted. they need to find out what the millions more Mail readers think.

ivykaty44 · 27/04/2011 23:26

Its regurgitated news and its free

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