Tears stream down my face.. poor boy 15 stabbed to death in front of his brother 12 in London yesterday

[chocolatespiders]

so heatbreaking.

I heard this on the news this morning, it's tragic and sadly too common.

Thats Edmonton for you, people get killed round there all the time.

I heard he was stabbed protecting his younger brother.

I'm so sad about all this. It's an obvious thing to say, but this is a completely insane thing to be happening. I can't believe how young these children are. I keep thinking there must be something we (as a society) can do to stop all this.

'Thats Edmonton for you, people get killed round there all the time'.

It shouldnt be happening in Edmonton all of the time,

Poor poor boy what mentality does someone have to batter someone with a metal bar and then plunge a knife into someones body over and over again.

this is so so sad. And his poor brother witnessing this and tryinbg to lift the body of his brother that was protecting him

The government keeps going on about banning weapons and searching for weapons etc, but it's not knives thats killing people it's a mentality, anything can be used as a weapon, getting knives and guns off the street will make no difference, because they have not tackled the mentality.

You can't expect everyone to be respectful, have morals etc the only thing that can really be done is more police on the streets, actually walking around who can see things and intervene or put people off, but the MET and the government are more interested in saving money and filling the streets with CCTV cameras rubber necking crime scenes, yes it's all very good to have video evidence but we want prevention of crime not proof for the courts after it's happened.

I don't know what the answer is - would spending more money on youth workers/youth schemes help? Trying to enagage local youths and get them interested in stuff rather than into gangs?

the areas that this is common, definitely need more money and police. have the police out patrolling all the time - give them nowhere to carry out this crap. Luckily I live in a quite quiet and generally law abiding area but must be awful for people trying to bring up their kids among this.

Yes maybe i am expecting to much for everyone to be respectful and have enough morals to nt take someones life..
Def need more police out and about having a pressence on the streets and less time on time consuming paper work, i see police walking during the day but not really at night...

I have noticed with my own teenager that it is an age where they are so eaily influenced by their peers. think yourth workers are valuable and worth putting money into

I tink the cause of this starts in very early age in most cases in teenage years. This kids are angry of the adult they failed them from parents to schools. They don?t have any direction or future to get exited to live. Their surrounding is full of desperation, loss and failures. Life means noting to them You are right the government could help change their mentality

Even the most radical youth work organisations only manage to help a small percentage turn their lives around. I'm not saying it's a waste of time and money but it's definately not the solution to the problem. I wish I could tell you what is but unfortunately I despair of it myself.
How do we help foster a sense of community and respect for fellow humans in young people who have grown up in households where these things were not taught or shown? Where (in many cases) there was no father/male role models for young people and their idols become criminals with kudos on the street. Where there are no parental boundaries and young people are allowed to watch sexually explicit images on TV or RL - ditto scenes of violence.
It's incredibly depressing.