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Whats Cameron playing at?

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Jellyrollgumdrop · 05/04/2011 16:25

This countrys in a financial mess & hes giving away 650 million to Islamibad for education & schools. Proof that hes on a different planet!! Charity begins at home, he should be sorting out the financial mess on his own doorstep before doling out money to other countries! All this on the day they announce they are sacking some of our much needed troops. How many jobs in our own country could that money go towards? Hospitals schools etc???? It beggars belief............

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Mirage · 05/04/2011 16:35

Well,considering the majority of schools in that area are madrassas,run by people with fundamentalist leanings who prohibit the education of girls,I think it is a good thing to widen the education opportunities for all children.

GypsyMoth · 05/04/2011 16:40

is it tho?

we havent really seen full effect of the cuts yet......

CrosswordAddict · 05/04/2011 17:00

I'm bitterly disappointed in David Cameron's performance so far. If he or his henchmen are reading this (which I doubt!) then he has already lost one lifelong Tory voter. In fact, I am so cynical about politicians now that I don't feel inclined to vote ever again in a UK election.
He's implicated us in yet another war. Why do we have to be the big brother of all these other nations? he needs to concentrate on sorting out the situation here in the UK and let other nations sort themselves out IMO. Hope I don't get torched too badly but these are my sincerely held beliefs.

Kallista · 05/04/2011 17:04

I agree, my friends' kids are at local secondary + comprehensive schools where the gcse teachers rarely turn up! Then there are few post-16 jobs or apprenticeships. If Dave wants to prevent terrorism here then money should be spent on outreach, jobs and education for british kids including muslim youths who feel discriminated against and become easy targets for extremists. Also i think he needs to take a fresh look at NI. All our recent terrorist atrocities have been carried out by british citizens.

Jellyrollgumdrop · 05/04/2011 22:34

Agree with you cross was totally dumbfounded when I heard this on the news. The cuts have not started in earnest yet so I can not see how they can justify giving this money away. He needs to sort out the educational needs in his own country first before that of others! ...or maybe it suits him to have a nation full of illiterate uneducated people so he & other 'well heeled' individuals can stay in power......

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CrosswordAddict · 06/04/2011 09:04

Clegg is such a hypocrite! Saying he wants to sort out internships so they are not just for middle class kids. He has had a good start in life thanks to his connections and now he wants to make sure other middle class kids don't get the same advantage. Off skiing when he ought to be standing in for Cameron and saying "I forgot I was in charge". What a failure for a leader!
I agree with you Jellyroll, he doesn't want the competition!
And what about Oliver Letwin, saying we don't need to encourage people from Sheffield to fly away on holiday. Surely we are all entitled to good transport? The north of England and Midlands don't get much of the national wealth (such as it is) spent on them do they? Why shouldn't UK citizens get decent holidays? I always feel we are out on a limb geographically speaking in any case. France and Germany have much easier routes to the main holiday resorts, don't they?
There, I've had my daily rant, am off to do some work. Wish Clegg would do the same!

longfingernails · 07/04/2011 22:20

We shouldn't give a penny to a basketcase of a country like Pakistan.

We should be using every penny we can for deficit reduction. I really couldn't give two hoots about Pakistan.

MadameDefarge · 15/04/2011 01:25

blimey O'riley, is this a stupid people offended by headline thread?

Gotta love MN. Home to all sorts. Including total fucking idiots with the world knowledge of a slug. sorry. Dead slug. Oops. Insulted slugs.

CheekyLittleSox · 17/04/2011 23:18

i agree with cross

I didnt vote because i thought no matter who gets in my vote wont make a difference. I didnt want labour, or lib dems and certainly not tories. All the people who voted for tories on FB or people i know are complaining.

meditrina · 17/04/2011 23:22

It's been clear for a long time that the DfID aid budget is inviolate.

I can see why their might be differing views on who should be the recipient, but the basic fact that the money is there to be given as aid is hardly news.

Pancakeflipper · 17/04/2011 23:23

Cameron is playing Ludo.

Clegg is playing Hide and Seek. No one can be arse to find him now.

DegreesExperiencebutnojob · 18/04/2011 13:33

We are not in a financial mess, it is just Tory spin to excuse slashing the state to shreds:

We got into this huge 'debt' to bail out the banks, so we now own many of the banks. Guess who we owe the 'debt' to... yes, the banks. Nice little accounting trick there!

Clegg is in an abusive relationship. No wonder he looks such a state. I hope he dumps the nasty chap asap.

EdwardorEricCantDecide · 20/04/2011 21:08

Surely the first budget to be cut should be international aid, before we cut disabled peoples benefits or NHS or schools or armed forces the lust could go on and on.

BadgersPaws · 20/04/2011 22:20

"We got into this huge 'debt' to bail out the banks"

Well if this is the best that the opposition to the Tories can do then we've got years of Dave and his chums to look forward to...

The debt isn't really the problem, the deficit is. In the last year of the Labour Government it spent £140 billion more than it earned, that is to say that for every £4 that the Government spent it had to borrow £1. And that spending wasn't to bail out the banks it was just to keep the country running.

Even before the bank crash the Government was spending more than it earned. Every year it was having to borrow money off of the banks to fund its spending. While other European nations were busy running their country at a profit or rapidly reducing the amount that they overspent by we were galloping ahead and getting deeper and deeper into debt. And whose dealing with this recession better? Those countries who made the most of the "good years" and started making plans for when it all would go wrong? Or those countries who just thought "stuff that" and ran off with the Credit Card to go and do some serious shopping.

That is the problem.

The banks weren't holding a gun to the Government's head and saying "right then Tony mate you've got to live beyond your means and pay your bills on this hideously expensive credit card." Labour spent pretty much every year during it's time in office living off credit cards, and I'm sure that anyone can tell you how smart a spending plan that is.

And the bigger problem?

The Tories were doing the same thing too when they were last in charge, from 1979 to 1997 they managed to live within their means twice. For every other year they were running to the banks to borrow the money to pay the bills too.

And so the Tories want to blame Labour for this problem.

Meanwhile Labour want to blame the banks.

Neither want to put their hands up and say "OK, we admit it, living off of credit was a stupid stupid idea." And you've bought that lie, it's all the fault of some evil banker or corrupt banker friendly politician.

So you can stick your head in the sand and deny there's a problem, all that will do is to further help the banks as we continue to spend beyond our means and have no choice but to turn to them and borrow vast sums of money from them to pay the bills.

We either have to pay more taxes or we have less provided for us by the state, to do anything else is just fiddling while Rome burns and playing right into the hands of the bankers who just can't wait to lend the Government even more money and earn even more interest from us in return.

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