What do we think of...lads mags?

[monkeytrousers]

not a great article but it is interesting

(apologies if the writer is a mumsnetter)

Is she from Dulwich Janh?

I hate them too.

I noticed that the editor of one of these lovely mags has a partner who is a health journalist and lives in North London with her and their two children. So come on then, own up - who's shacked up with Phil Hilton then?

I'm in. Hateful misogynistic rubbish. And dangerous ? perpetuating the myth that women are always 'up for it'.

If mags like Company are dismissive of men (no idea, haven't read it for years) then it's not quite as damaging - because men as a gender are still in a position of power over women. There's a venerable tradition of taking the piss out of those in power.

your all pissed off becuase you cant get help on a thursday!

ah but we are all so accepting on mn( apprently!!) of men who use porn
so whats it to eb gals

I loathe them too but men love to look at women trussed up like turkeys no matter what they tell you I know several v intellectual pc etc professional men who find Abi Titmus etc really sexy but would never tell their wives/girlfriends.My dp used to try and be disapproving of them but it was all an act and I know he likes a look He knows they are degrading etc but men are visual creatures by and large

MonkeyTrousers...I think so.
has gone up in the world....

They're silliness and a waste of money.

you see i dont think this "! gosha arent men silly " idea is helpful

firstly it dwon plays th e harm of porna dn aslo it patronises them

Well, let's just put it this way then: if I started seeing a man and went to his place and saw ANY of those mags there, you'd soon not see me for dust.

Ditto any porn.

IMO, porn perpetuates slavery and cruelty - not just among women, but also among millions of children in the developing world. I don't see anything 'empowering' about it at all.

And if he called me a stroppy feminist, I'd take it as a compliment.

I feel the same way about people who visit strip clubs. Don't see them as 'harmless' fun at all.

totally agree expat.
I think that magazines like this are sad and pathetic but ultimately dangerous as well, as are similar ones for girls.

both types are responsible for the over early sexualisation of our your young people. adding to the teenage pregnancy rate and std, as young people are pressured into having sex before they are mature enough to do it responsibly.

Just because a man doesn't have them in his flat doesn't mean he wouldn't like a look through if he got the chance

I agree Cod. Porn has found a foothold in the mainstream thru magazines like this and even Anne Summers shops.

There's nothing wrong with sexuality, but everything wrong with the explicit misogyny in these mags.

And to be fair, I don't think all men like to look at women posed like this. Some men do balance their sexuality and morality.

I agree that they balance their sexuality and morality but like to be titllated at times by this trash

These mags are insidious. They legitimise mysogyny and glorify stupidity. I can't be doing with them.

I guess it's a bit of a foreign thing for me. The US is way more puritanical in many respects. 'Lads' mags that portray nudity are classed as one and the same as porn and not out, but available for purchase behind a counter, where you have to ask for them and be 18+.

Sexism is a cause that's actively addressed by the court system, and there seems to be more legislation against blatant gender discrimination there. There's also a lot of PC-ness and regard for 'decency', particularly where children might be around.

That's not to say it doesn't exist, it's just probably more hidden away.

TBH, I was VERY shocked to see newspapers running photos of topless women when I first got here. It was like, 'Whoa! Anyone could have picked this up! Even kids.'

I'd never heard of 'glamour models'. I thought they were women who were maybe too short to be regular models and could only use their faces.

It was even more shocking to find out that some of these gals used flashing their tits to get 'real' jobs, like in TV and such.

Whilst it does happen in the US - Pamela Anderson Lee, for example, who is actually a native Canadian - it's not very common and many broadcast journalists would find their careers in tatters if nude photos of themselves were found.

If I'm honest, I was titilated the times I caught sight of some porn in my younger days. Probably still would be now. I don't think it's just men. But I still don't seek it out. My morals aren't subordinated by my libido. I know it's wrong and I live a very healthy, happy life without porn being a part of of it as does my DP.

Sex pushes very specific and very primal buttons in us all. And it's true that young beautiful women like to be sexy, even turned on by their own bodies, objectifying themselves. And lets not forget we are a competitive species when it comes to resources, mates being just another facet of that.

But to be blunt, just because it might make your cock twitch to catch sight of an explicit image doesn't make it morally justifiable to buy into it when the systematic abuse in the industry is so well documented. But I think it's perfectly natural for these twitches to happen, it's just human sexuality. Indulging them to the point where others are degraded on an industrial scale is a different matter entirely.

monkeytrousers v eloquent and v true.

cock twitch

and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH at
"I'd never heard of 'glamour models'. I thought they were women who were maybe too short to be regular models and could only use their faces.

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I liked the article, thanks for posting it. I've long thought the same about these mags - in fact I was really quite shocked when I flicked through FHM at the hairdresser once. They are absolutely foul.

Seriously, I had no idea what a 'glamour model' was. There used to be a chain of photography studios in the US called 'Glamour Shots', where they had make up artists tart you up and where the photographers would then alter photos of mingers to where they looked passable. So I immediately thought of that when I heard 'glamour model'.

Any topless woman or naked man in photographs there is classed as porn and treated accordingly - behind the counter, ask for it, show ID that you're over 18, etc. B/c of 'decency' laws.

In US 'Playgirl', photos of fully erect men are not allowed.

There's no 'watershed' there where you can say swear words and show topless women after 9PM on 'normal' - non cable, digital, satellite telly, either. You just can't show or say swear words - other than an occassional 'bitch' or 'ass' - on regular TV stations, full stop. On cable, digitial, etc. you can do so after 9PM.

lol though
you aqre funny