Breast Milk Ice Cream

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... anyone seen this? I wouldn't mind trying it but at £14, no bloody way :)

FellatioNelson

@?it is possible that white women had sex with their black slaves?

Which History books have you been reading?!! White women had sex with Black slaves, and when found out, usually claimed he had raped her, and the slave was promptly lynched.

Yes, Black female slaves were raped on a very regular basis; it wasn?t for sexual pleasure neither, but as a tool to control, humiliate and oppress her and her emasculated partner

GenXMum,

You forgot ?sheepish? and 'horse-ish'

Some cultures enjoy sheep (10 million or so) and horse milk (20million or so) too.

Yes I know both of those things, and I haven't needed to read any specific history books to arrive at that conclusion. I'm not really sure what point you are making?

FellatioNelson
@ lights dimmed. You silly moo.

Actually, it takes 7 generations to eradicate dominant racial genes. There are a lot of people who have a alot of, say, Black genes, but pass for other races because they have about 80% of the other race?s genes. To wit, look at Emma Bunton and Jade?s son ; he could easily pass for a fully Caucasian boy.

This is why the race divide based simply on skin colour is an absolute farce.

I've never seem him before (cute).I think she's had the hair straighteners on him though. The mixed race child (quarter black) in my family is that fair, with pale red hair and blue/green eyes, but his hair is curly.

Tigerfeet,

I am happy to present empirical evidence to support my claim. However, I still need you to answer my question re; building blocks of DNA. You hurt my little feelings by dismissing my theory as ?claptrap? and now the onus is on you to justify why you think so.

Incidentally, have you ever heard about the controversial Islamic practise of breast feeding grown men? ( I am not a Muslim nor do I have any issues with Islam, but have always thought it was interesting connection to this existing theory about the genetic link that breastfeeding creates)

Sheikh al-Abaican thus "modernizes" Dr. Izzat's position ? that the man must breastfeed directly from the teat ? by suggesting that "the man should take the milk, but not directly from the breast of the woman. He should drink it and then becomes a relative of the family, a fact that allows him to come in contact with the women without breaking Islam's rules about mixing."

Source: www.meforum.org/2664/fatwa-men-drink-breast-milk

^ Sorry, that comment was for Tortoiseonthehalfshell

Ps - Tortoiseonthehalfshell

Re your comment: (Also, my husband wants to know how come none of us give birth to babies with bovine features?)

I bet your husband wouldn't be so mocking if he had read this in the DailyMail or the Sun. Please inform your husband that drinking cow milk is extremely unnatural, so much so that humans forced their bodies to accept it

"An example of a gene under positive selection is the mutation that allows adults to digest milk. Thousands of years ago, adults did not have the ability to drink cow?s milk. But as cows were introduced to Europe, people with a certain mutation that enabled them to break down lactose sugars in milk could use cow?s milk as a food source, offering them a significant survival advantage. The mutation quickly spread through the population and today, most European adults can drink milk. (Those who can?t suffer from ?lactose intolerance.?)

Link to source

:o at the DNA in breastmilk theory - I wonder did the royal family give their babies horse milk?

No, sorry, the onus is not upon me to do anything of the sort. And being rude about my husband is not inclining me to change my mind.

I didn't call your theory 'claptrap', incidentally. I called it crap, and also one of the most hilariously ignorant things I have ever heard.

No-one's tht interested in the ice cream are they?

This thread really is extremely strange and I'm not sure what to make of it at this time of night. Breast milk transmitting DNA - blimey, the mind absolutely boggles.

I heard the JV feature on it and was intensely irritated to hear self-righteous people phoning in to say that the women who had sold their breastmilk, should have been donating it to neo-natal units.

The assumption that random strangers have the right to tell women what to do with their bodies, because obviously women's function is to help everyone else and not do anything for themselves, really pissed me off. No one ever said that men who wanked for money should be donating it for free to help infertile couples.

Ladyfanny, that fatwa you've quoted is new & that 'shaikh' well to be polite not many would agree or follow that fatwa. He passed it because of the driving ban on women in Saudi.

The breastmilk ruling in Islam is that any children breastfed for a prolonged period of time by the same woman are considered siblings & cannot therefore marry. In the Quran it stipulates that a child should be weaned by the age of two.
Dunno why that Shaikh thinks he can overrule that!

How am I being rude about your husband? he made a comment, and I responded in kind.

Why do you think it is hilarious and ignorant? I asked you what the building blocks of DNA were; you declined to answer because by doing so, you'd have had to mention nucleotides.

Nucleotides are found in breast milk although in what quantity is debatable scientists cannot agree on the amount present. The point is they are present in breast milk, hence the reason why nucleotide-supplemented formula is marketed as ?being closer to breastmilk" than non nucleotide-supplemented formula.

The adverse results of transfer of genes via breastmilk has been noted elsewhere . We know that when a woman breastfeeds a child that is not her own, she runs the risk of transferring/ triggering a copy of a gene that gives rise to certain disorders in the child; a good example is the (CFTR the Cystic Fibrosis Transmembrane Conductance Regulator) gene which is known to cause Cystic Fibrosis or Sickle cell disease.

Woman A has a copy of a CF mutation but Child B (who is not her child) has a mother who does not carry a copy, while her husband does. This means that because Child B only inherits one copy of the gene, they will live a CF free life. Until Woman A comes along with her breast milk and transfers this copy of the CF mutation. Child B now has two copies of the gene, and therefore, will develop CF.

Please remember, you only need to have dominating genes from one race to look like that race. You could have 40% Black genes and still look like a White person.

Fuzzywuzzy,

Thank you for adding that last bit about women being considered siblings after sharing wet nurse duties.

@ "Dunno why that Shaikh thinks he can overrule that!"

Indeed.

^The adverse results of transfer of genes via breastmilk has been noted elsewhere . We know that when a woman breastfeeds a child that is not her own, she runs the risk of transferring/ triggering a copy of a gene that gives rise to certain disorders in the child; a good example is the (CFTR the Cystic Fibrosis Transmembrane Conductance Regulator) gene which is known to cause Cystic Fibrosis or Sickle cell disease.

Woman A has a copy of a CF mutation but Child B (who is not her child) has a mother who does not carry a copy, while her husband does. This means that because Child B only inherits one copy of the gene, they will live a CF free life. Until Woman A comes along with her breast milk and transfers this copy of the CF mutation. Child B now has two copies of the gene, and therefore, will develop CF. ^

Citation?

HerBeX,

I think people are put off more by the price tag than anything else .

Tortoiseonthehalfshell I will provide a citation in a minute. First, please tell me whether you agree or disagree with what I have written about nucleotides. Thanks!

it's been withdrawn now, and I have to say that eating icecream made from someone else's breast milk turns my stomach. I think it's to do with the whole primal instinct to be repulsed at others bodily fluids in order to protect yourself from infection. In the way that I have no problem with my DC's bodily fluids, but am bleurgh about other peoples. inc DH!

But OK with a cow's bodily fluid?

Cheese....

It's odd isn't it? Theoretically, we ought to be less repulsed by the bodily fluids of our own species, oughtn't we? Why aren't we?

maybe because theoretically, different species don't pass diseases between each other. I know that there is the odd exception, but generally disease doesn't jump the species gap.

Yes. And I suppose we do eat other species as well, whereas in most human cultures it's pretty much taboo to be cannibals.

Though apparantly it wasn't always - there's now quite a bit of evidence that early humans were cannibals.

perhaps the cannibals all died horrible deaths from transmutable diseases and so thought better of the habit?

Herbex,

Cannibalism has a strong presence in both early and modern human's diet. An example of a culture which still eats human flesh. A little known fact is that the red and white baubles that are hung on Christmas tree originated from a Neanderthal tradition of hanging up the skulls of the infants they had cannibalised. Red to resemble the blood, and white to represent the skull/flesh.

Let's not forget that Christians "eat" and "drink" the "flesh" and "blood" of their Saviour?

I don't agree that it is a taboo practise; merely misunderstood by people outside that particular culture/religion.

really Lady ? The Christian thing is symbolic I think!

I suspect you are having a laugh re cannibals being misunderstood.

BTW, are you a cannibal?

FunnysInTheGarden,

Yep, really.

You are right in saying it is symbolic, but does that mean we should forget that it is an re-enactment of a cannibalistic act?

I am not having a laugh, and if you want me to go into greater detail about cannibalism, then I am happy to do so.

Am I a cannibal? No, I am not. Although interestingly, it has been said that human flesh and pig flesh taste the same, so anyone who has had a bacon sarnie, or a fry-up...well...

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