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lospolloshermanos · 16/02/2011 12:43

I know its the daily fail, But I read this it is awful.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357485/Former-GMTV-reporter-Lara-Logan-suffers-brutal-sustained-sex-assault-covering-Egypt-uprising.html

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Lucyinthepie · 16/02/2011 22:54

I'm surprised that you haven't had any replies. I agree with you. I'm not sure she should have been in the middle of that though, whatever they say to justify that she was. The fact is, in some situations, women are more vulnerable than men.

BooYhoo · 16/02/2011 23:01

i think she had as much right as any male journalist to be there. the fact that she was attacked is down to the bastards that did it. what message would it send to refuse to send women on jobs like that for fear of sexual assault?

Chil1234 · 17/02/2011 11:41

Male journalists in previous news hot-spots have been shot, killed, beaten up, beheaded (remember Daniel Pearl?) and all kinds of horrors. Sexual assault tends to be reserved for women, unfortunately. As an international correspondent, however, they all know that they do a dangerous job, they try to minimise the risks and they rely on their support teams. It's a pity she's had to endure this experience but she will think herself lucky that she's alive to tell the tale.

slim22 · 17/02/2011 11:59

What child said.
It's not going to stop anyone determined to go.
The team from CNN escaped the same fate only last week and made a point of making a feature of their ordeal. Anderson Cooper was quite smug relating the "incident" with a shrug. They had an Arab American woman in their team and it could have gone very very wrong.
Not in any way trying to diminish their courage but really some journalists are also in it for the posterity. I think then producers should take responsibility. This type of "collateral" damage is easily foreseen and should not be acceptable.

slim22 · 17/02/2011 12:00

Sorry chil1234, I'm not calling you a child!

meditrina · 17/02/2011 12:02

The report stated over 140 journalists had been killed or injured in Egypt. This article is a missed opportunity to tackle seriously a story about the risks to the press, and salacious opportunism in reporting on the identity of the victim of a sexual offence (not normally permitted in UK, but this is a repeat of a story previously published in US). Pity.

Chil1234 · 17/02/2011 12:09

It's OK slim22... better than what some people call me Wink

lospolloshermanos · 17/02/2011 13:58

alot of my threads have died on their arse lucyinthepie lol

I was so angry at this , but sadly not suprised

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FellatioNelson · 17/02/2011 19:13

It's in the Times as well - does that make it an acceptable story now? Wink

I agree with Chil and slim - she did have as much right as any journalist to be there, but I do thing she was slightly naive, as a blonde western woman, uncovered, going into a huge crowd of agitated men, running high on adrenaline, in a country where the respect for women is famously appalling.

I remember hearing an Englishman who lived in Dubai telling Jeremy Vine how he and his wife got separated in crowds at a camel racing event. It was largely attended by uneducated men from the Indian sub-continent, who make up much of the immigrant blue collar and manual workforce in that part of the Middle East. Unaccustomed to being in close proximity to an uncovered woman, they surrounded her and groped her and molested her - purely opportunistically.

Disgraceful but not surprising.

Lucyinthepie · 17/02/2011 22:55

I think I'm saying that they all have the right to be there, but should they? Is it really worth the risk just to bring us the news? Is it any less effective to shoot the scene from a slightly safer distance?

I'm struggling to think of a situation where a man would be in more danger than a woman, but if I could think of one I would suggest that they should also think twice before putting themselves into a more vulnerable situation.

I, like the reporter, am quite slight, and I lost my footing in a friendly crowd once. When you go down that's it, you can't get back up. It was quite terrifying even in a friendly crowd. This journalist was lucky to escape with her life.

(In my case I suddenly found myself lifted into the air by the back of my jacket and found myself in the one-handed grip of a great, huge biker. But that's another story).

Normantebbit · 17/02/2011 23:00

There are many fantastic female journalists who risk their lives everyday.

Good for them. You should be proud that women are doing this.

Normantebbit · 17/02/2011 23:00

well maybe not every day.

But alot

MamaMary · 18/02/2011 14:06

It was shocking. They wouldn't have assaulted am Egyptian woman-but westerners are seen as fair game.

Catkinsthecatinthehat · 18/02/2011 14:34

Here's the Daily Mail's take

"Nothing excuses the Cairo sexual assault on CBS TV reporter Lara Logan, 39, the former swimwear model but she does have ?form? for dressing provocatively in inappropriate locations". Angry

lospolloshermanos · 18/02/2011 20:11

Catkins- I agree its a bad comment , but tbh there are times when its just too dangerous and I'm more shocked at how she managed to be dragged away for so long, I would have thought sec. could have been better

I wounder what the perps will get sweet FA probs

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HandDivedScallopsrgreat · 18/02/2011 22:20

MamaMary - they would assault an Egyptian women. Protests are very dangerous for women in Egypt. Normally only about 10% of the crowd is made up of women. This protest has been an exception in that about 20% of the protestors have been women.

This is not a problem with female (or male for that matter) journalists or other women being involved in these protests. It is certainly not Lara Logan's fault in anyway. This is a problem with the men committing these crimes being violent.

slim22 · 19/02/2011 00:22

"This is not a problem with female (or male for that matter) journalists or other women being involved in these protests. It is certainly not Lara Logan's fault in anyway. This is a problem with the men committing these crimes being violent."

I still think its more a case of bad editorial judgement on the part of the producers.
I think the CBS and CNN crews went into a dangerous situation very naively over confident of their status and inflated egos. They wanted to bring the show to screen and got caught up in the chaos.
We will never know if ay other woman was raped nor if any man was for that matter. And we will never know how many people were brutalized in any other way. But hey! who cares right? they are not on TV.

I may sound harsh, but that is the reality of what happened. She's a casualty no different from all those that have gone unpublicised.

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