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Inflexible and stressful work harming families, says Nick Clegg - do you agree and if so what should be done about it?

132 replies

KatieMumsnet · 16/01/2011 23:10

The government says it wants to do more for hard-pressed working families, and is launching a report on maternity, paternity, employment and community involvement

Whaddya think?

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RosieAndGin · 17/01/2011 07:43

Johnny Depp coming on for a full nude video web chat I could just about believe, but this.......Nahh

KaraStarbuckThrace · 17/01/2011 07:51

Right another fairytale dreamed up by ConDem.

If you believe that, I have a steel factory in Sheffield I'd like to sell you.

Blackduck · 17/01/2011 08:27

I like the one about changing the rules so a woman can pass any unused Maternity leave (up to six months) onto the father to use - well, yes, like that is going to make a blind bit of difference if you are only receiving the statutory minimum £124.88 per week Hmm

TrillianAstra · 17/01/2011 09:03

"well, yes, like that is going to make a blind bit of difference if you are only receiving the statutory minimum £124.88 per week "

If the woman is the main earner then the opportunity to share maternity leave would make a difference Blackduck - better to have the lower-paid partner on £124/week than the have it always be the woman.

Threelittleducks · 17/01/2011 09:04

Nick Clegg's promises now mean precisely Jack Shit. I don't think I'll ever believe a word he says ever again. Smiling fool of a man that he is Hmm.

Blackduck · 17/01/2011 09:14

Fair enough Trillian - but my point is without realistic SMP this is tokenism at best.....

TrillianAstra · 17/01/2011 09:15

I'd like to give him a chance, but he should realise that there is a lot of pressure here.

He said "If I were your Prime Minister...." well, he's not.

Here he is making promises knowing precisely what is and what is not within his power. If he fails us here it will be entirely his own fault. No excuses.

YankNCock · 17/01/2011 09:26

Pah. Give up Nick, we'll never trust you again. Go stick your head back up ham-faced C3P0's arse.

sarah293 · 17/01/2011 09:27

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LilyBolero · 17/01/2011 09:28

Totally stupid idea. Dh couldn't take any paternity leave with any of our kids (he took the day they were born off and that was it), because he works for a small company, and though he was legally entitled to do so, he realised that deadlines depended on him, and that it would be irresponsible to take time off.

We survived.

LilyBolero · 17/01/2011 09:29

And in any case, I don't believe Nick Clegg. He hasn't got a sincere bone in his body. He is all about 'Clegg' - that is his only interest in life.

LilyBolero · 17/01/2011 09:31

Clegg before the election;
"Tory VAT bombshell"
"We will campaign against, vote against ANY rise in tuition fees"
"I believe if we have a conservative government there will be RIOTS on the streets - I don't think that's being over-dramatic"...oh...wait....that was the truth!

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 17/01/2011 09:38

NC has promised to cancel 20% of DLA claims despite a Government admitted 0.5% fraud rate and 40% underclaim.

NC has in effect promised to damage the chances of at least 15% of disabled famillies. By his own stats- and that's IF they target tyhe right ones which I doubt; the fakers will blag an assessment, those with say an ASD won't have the ability.

NC can promise as he wishes but DH and I changed allegiance- for dh lifelong- last year, as did most of my family- hard core south west LD standing voters.

NC can sod off.

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 17/01/2011 09:43

He also cvlaimed he was going to do a lot for carer's: the Government's official stance is 'we don;t know what to do about carers but the £53 a week they recieve now makes no difference to poverty'- which sounds a lot like it will vanish and also indicates poor understanding of finance: £5 = £53, it pays £53 worth of bills; £0 is £0 and pays f all.

Angry, moi? Wink

deemented · 17/01/2011 09:43

Nick Clegg...???

Who is he again??

Ah right... tha fuckwit that sold out to the other fuckwit...

Bumperlicious · 17/01/2011 09:44

I think that the paternity thing won't be an issue for us pretty soon as DH will be out of a job when the council closes our library. But it's ok, if the community want to take it on he can go and do the same job as a volunteer. Got to keep those pesky unemployed people busy.

sarah293 · 17/01/2011 09:45

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bibbitybobbityhat · 17/01/2011 09:49

He can't be surprised by the reaction on this thread so far?

Although I do wish some of my fellow posters wouldn't embarrass themselves to resorting to swearing and making personal comments - its very playground and makes it easy to dismiss the opinions of Mumsnetters as puerile.

[po-faced emoticon].

HerBeatitude · 17/01/2011 09:49

Viz paternity leave, I'm in favour of it. You cannot argue that fathers are as important in their children's lives as mothers are, and then accuse them of being irresponsible when they take paternity leave to actually participate in the parenting. However, paternity and maternity leave should be much more flexible - why should the paternity leave have to be taken in the first six months or first years? Why not in the first 2 or 3 years of a child's life, not necessarily all in one go? How about having the choice of taking it all in one go or in 3 batches of 2 months each, to be negotiated with individual employers?

But it's all a pipe dream anyway, because it's Nick in charge.

Just as an aside, haven't the tories been clever? David Cameron has broken just as many election promises as Nick Clegg, but it's Clegg who is seen as such a liar that there are now jokes about it (good one Gorionne Grin)

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 17/01/2011 09:52

Ah yes WRT to volunteering but be careful; too much Big Society and your benefits are taken as you are not available for work.

Am desperately trying to find some volunteering prior to applying for Social Work MA or Teacher Training but can't get any as the Job Centre is sending all the unemployed people there as it will help their chances of re-employment; may well but it's not helping me but then I don;t appear on any governmental stats as a carer so why would they care?

DH was amde redundant last year and we have yet to get properly back on our feet (working and studying but income gone down by over half); BIL was amde redundant last week. If nobody has a job soon, how will the state cope then? Surely you can claw back all you like in VAT etc but if nobody ahs the money they won;t pay extra, they'll just downgrade, whsilt being forced to take more by dint of lack of employment?

I remain to be convinced that it is cost effective to lose so many public sector employees (I know some were superfluous- jeck I temped in the sector for some time!) given there are so few jobs for them to go to and the Government will end up paying £'s out in benefits, lose £'s in taxes paid in, and quite likely end up picking up a huge mess from a lack of decent private sector buying in......... the day centres are closing not being replaced, and even if they were being replaced the cost for attendance would fall back onto the head of Social Services through Direct payments albeit at a higher rate that emans the post would empty quicker and less people could use essential services, emaning less carers in work or able to cope, meaning

Argh.

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 17/01/2011 09:55

Riv tell em about it

We no longer HB as theya dmitted they over paid us (we got a top up) due to their error- lost some apperwork- and they are clawing it back.

DH's student grant seems to have been over[paid on same bbasis as well. Theya re deciding wehther to claw back; we may only have his £50 week wages to live on plus tax credits and carers between April and September.

That £53 a week will mean eating or not some days; luckoily I still have 1 stone to lose on the diet.

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 17/01/2011 10:02

Love it Loop.

The only good thing NC has done is make DH and I determined to give llarge donatiosn to other politicval parties when we both qualify.

Nick Clegg: Putting the Lie into Liability (as they say)

gorionine · 17/01/2011 10:47

HerBeatitude I wish I could take the credit but I am only repeating itGrin.

I think the reason he is the one jokes are made about is that not only did he breake promises, he adopted all the ideas he was opposing to pre election. He went from " we will never do the stupid things conservatives are doing" to "yes David, of course David!"

desclaimer I am quoting him very loosly not word per wordGrin

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