No more legal aid for divorce and family cases

[Batteryhuman]

here

So that would be women who get it in the neck in the interests of saving money again

There we go - that seems more reasonable.

\link{http://www.justice.gov.uk/consultations/legal-aid-reform-151110.htm\here are the full proposals} if anyone wants to trawl through them

even better, just scrap the common law system and save millions.

what are deemed as "assets" btw?

Equity in a home is, Baroque, according to the original link.

that list is frightening

have to say I'm also quite concerned about "clinical negligence" being on the list of things that LA won't be available for.

great I see Clinical negligence and personal injury is on the list!!
yet your ok if your a sodding asylum seeker.
that will make dd feel better

This is an interesting if cryptic sentence from a Mary Riddell article a couple of weeks ago: "Even those closest to Mr Clarke are far from certain that the legal aid cuts demanded by the Chancellor will be consistent with the statutory duty to provide access to the law."

Unless the "surprise" exemptions (as the Guardian terms them) come under this heading, then it looks as if the three-month consultation period for this may be a stormy one.

2shoes - it says it's being cut for immigration where the person isn't being detained (and in most cases where it's going through the courts they're usually detained)

Not sure why everyone is surprised by this, we are stepping back to the dark days of conservative party politics during the 80's & 90's when there were lies, corruption & cover-ups by several prominent ministers including our current justice minister Kenneth Clarke. If you remember the BSE scandal you will understand what I mean.

still seems odd to keep that, but once again put the boot into the disabled.

no legal aid for clinical negligence, sly move Mr.Clarke, there is no justice for families of victims of the human form of mad cow disease (vCJD)

I do hope it won't affect on going cases as what a wast of thousands of pounds of money already spent. with no hope of the guilty side paying costs/

Not acceptable to put the boot into the disabled or asylum seekers, I think.

Whinging students on the other hand who can spread their repayments out over a lifetime with easy-access loans (and not pay anything while earning under a certain amount) can FRO as far as I'm concerned. Could we at least have easy-access loans for justice and IVF? Thanks, that would be great.

(sorry, I probably shouldn't keep dragging students into it but I'm mad about this).

No Legal Aid for clinical negligence - so if you are in labour, and for example, someone very unskilled with forceps delivered your baby, and fractured their skull - and you weren't erm earning £200K pa (solicitors fees are mo-f'kin scary) - you would not get legal aid to help prosecute for negligence?? That's just one example from my close circle of friends (her DS was left brain damaged) I can think of many more. .

That's just RIDICULOUS.

And what about in family cases where there is no DV, no threat of abduction, but you are repeatedly taken to court by a bullying ex who can pay? (Been there got the t-shirt, without legal aid, I probably wouldn't have my DS1, or even have access)

Loudlass tell me about it 10 f ing years her case has been going, just as we see light at the end of the tunnel........this.
what a waste of money, do they just write of all the money already spent on it?

Employment too - so a low-paid worker can be sexually harrassed, sacked when they complain, or sacked while on Mat leave, and have no way of going to tribunal? Way to go there - Stuff the poor, they can be treated however badly, they can't afford to do anything about it

yes - but they're being sly with that one - most asylum seekers that are having to battle through the courts (and therefore needing legal aid) are already detained. So they won't get help.

I suppose it means they can leave babies wihtout milk for 18 hours and get away with it more often. Not to mention deny all of them refugee status without any fight

So they fuck over the women in bad (but not "violent") relationships - reduces the number of single parents I guess

They can make cuts to the NHS without fear of having to pay out when they f*ck up. And slash the NHS budget just by cutting the amount they currently pay in compensation

And they can reduce the number of benefits paid by not helping those who are entitled 6o them (But again have been fucked over) to make sure they get them.

Yup - nice one

"Please sir, can I have some more gruel, and lick your boots clean while I'm at it?"

think I will retire for the night, the thought of the disabled kids who will now not be able to get justice makes my blood boil, I do hope they have a rethink.
but hey the kids affected won't be able to protest as most of them can't talk.

Isn't the expectation that people would instead go to "no win, no fee" solicitors, so you would still be able to sue if you had a case that was deemed winnable.

And dp wonders why I won't marry him? Thast's disgusting.

\link{http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/no_win_no_fee_no_chance-2\unless things have changes since this was written} (which I doubt very much) then I should imagine similar issues would arise as are pointed out on there

I work in the criminal justice system (in witness adn victim care) and guess what, our specialist domestic violence advisors are being made redundant :(