ABU HAMZA has WON appeal to keep British passport

[shinyshoes]

Discuss

Whilst I go calm myself down

Why? what was his argument, what is the legislation etc. cant really discuss without info

Outrageous.

his agument was it leaves him Stateless as he has already been stripped of his egyptian passport

who is he?

Can they refuse to renew his old one when the current one expires?
I thought that passport belonged to the country/state and not the person.

And because he gained it through marriage surely there are conditions attached to his being allowed hold it

If it leaves him stateless, then so be it. Why did he lose his Egyptian one anyway?

Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer.

Can't believe it is 'against his human rights', ffs! What about the human rights of the person he murdered? Or the human rights of everyone who lives in this country to feel safe, as he has been classed as a 'national security threat'!

Let's just hope the US manage to extradite him!

"I thought that passport belonged to the country/state and not the person."

The passport is a symbol of the citizenship he was granted back in '86, it's the citizenship that the Home Office want to take away so he can be deported.

"Why did he lose his Egyptian one anyway?"

Egypt doesn't allow it's citizens to take up a foreign citizenship without it's consent, which Hamza allegedly didn't get, so allegedly he's lost his Egyptian citizenship.

"If it leaves him stateless, then so be it."

Well no, the state isn't just allowed to break the law, and making him stateless seems to be an illegal thing to do. Making sure that the state always follows the law is one of the biggest and most important protections that we have and to throw that away because of a vile man like Hamza not only hurts us but makes him the victor.

"What about the human rights of the person he murdered?"

He didn't murder anyone...

"Or the human rights of everyone who lives in this country"

It's precisely because of the human rights of all of us that it's especially important to make sure that the Government follows the law.

ITV lunchtime news said he's in prison for murder as well as inciting racial hatred.

Perhaps I misheard, I was watching the news whilst MNing and ironing!

He is guilty of inciting murder not committing murder

It is a fabulous display of this country and our societies love of fair and just laws that have allowed him to stay.

Unfortunately hamza dislikes the west and its infidels. Seems odd that he is so keen to stay really.

"It is a fabulous display of this country and our societies love of fair and just laws that have allowed him to stay."

True, but that's always a possibility with a free country.

It's the Government's over reaction to the terror threat that lead to is wasting millions (billions?) on pointless ID cards and introducing "needed" anti-terror legislation that was used by Council's to punish people for putting bins out on the wrong day and to stop over 100,000 people in one year, such as photographers for being too tall, and yet not result in one single terrorism arrest.

He's fighting deportation to the US isn't he? We may well see the back of him yet, evil toad.

"He's fighting deportation to the US isn't he?"

Yes he is, and he's fighting that on humans rights grounds too.

I'm far more sceptical about that, however the US really hasn't done itself any favours with it's treatment of detainees in this "war on terror".

I think we should respect his beliefs and act accordingly.

As I understand it he advocates killing those who don't agree with you yes?

Either that or make him a primary school teacher to show how open minded we are.

I thought he was wanted in Egypt for bombings there.