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Police strip and violently assault woman in cells....in the UK

116 replies

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 30/10/2010 08:12

I am astonished and ashamed that this can happen in Britain. The victim is taking action against Police....surely the Police should be prosecuting these officers?

disturbing images

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whatagradeA · 05/11/2010 18:54

Police And Criminal Evidence Act - so law.

grannieonabike · 05/11/2010 19:09

Thank you! So what the officers did here really is a one-off and totally illegal. That's reassuring.

ISNT · 05/11/2010 19:10

The woman in the film had all charges against her dropped after the court was shown this footage.

She is pursuing a case against the officers.

Why are people so keen to believe that she was violent etc and that the police were acting completely as they should? if that's the case then why was the case dropped, and she is pursuing charges of her own? if the rest of the footage showed her being violent / threatening suicide etc then the case against her woudn't have been dropped, and she wouldn't be bringing a case of her own.

FWIW a friend of mine had an experience similar to ooozathon's. Taking someone in for being incapable is one thing, winding them up, taking the piss, laughing at them and taunting them etc is not on. It is unprofessional and presumably against the rules.

it bother me that so many people think that it is fine for police to treat people who have been arrested however they fancy. Because some of them will be shits, and their behaviour should not be allowed.

kickarsequeensbonfireburnup · 05/11/2010 19:18

Grannie, I saw that too I'm sure! It was a male officer and he went and "peered" into the room, 2 female officers were in there and the girl was upset but not resisting......

grannieonabike · 05/11/2010 19:33

Oh dear. I suppose it's the apparently casual attitude towards privacy, decency and dignity that I find upsetting, more than anything. But also the idea that male police officers (and customs officials with those new screening systems, and male prison officers in women's prisons) might think that seeing women naked - and restraining them - was a perk of the job. There's something really sick about that, imo.

However. Life is short, and probably too short to worry about what's in other people's minds. But if it is against the law, then it should be enforced.

ledkr · 05/11/2010 19:58

omg that is shocking. I am married to a copper which is amazing in itself as yrs of working with some of societies most vulnerable people led me to hate them.Hubby works in cp and is a gem but i do get to meet some of his colleagues and i have to say there are some right prats and the power certainly goes to their heads. To think that this could happen to one of us is terrifying.I havent even got the time to tell you what i have seen in my work but it did lead me to this point.
It also seems that they mostly get away with any misdemeanours no matter how great they are. I am always dubious about the so called "independent" complaints comission.

grannieonabike · 05/11/2010 20:03

ledkr - how did years of working with some of society's most vulnerable people lead you to hate them? Genuine question.

ledkr · 05/11/2010 20:17

will come back to this granny but a basic lack of understanding for people who are mentally ill or in pain or distress leading to piss taking nasty comments and extremely rough handling in some cases.
I will redeem myself slightly by saying that i have also encountered some brillant and very caring individuals but in my humble opinion they are the minority. It is very worrying.
I wonder whether the age or qualification bar should be raised as they are treated and paid as professionals despite there being no qualification neccesary to go into the job.

grannieonabike · 05/11/2010 20:28

Well I realise you are busy now, but would be very interested to talk to you when you have time. I think your last point is a very good one, if that's the case.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 06/11/2010 15:09

With an edited video with no timeline it's completley impossible to make a judgement on this. We don't know the police's explantion for their actions, what else may have happened etc.

It's quite possible that she was acting in a way that led the police that she was at risk of hurting herself or others, and that though short of assault their actions were justified.

It's not possible to tell from this video.

ledkr · 07/11/2010 16:34

Oh yes i see. That would explain why one officer stood on her arm using the wall as a brace and another knelt on her head!!!
I have been trained in and use restraint if necessary and with a team of only 3 sometimes with very big and extremely disturbed individuals, i have never needed to do such things and certainly never needed to strip anyone.
Many people die each year from restraints by professionals. Their last words ar nearly always "I cannot breath" very important for peple not to overuse or abuse their power.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 08/11/2010 08:42

Ledkr - maybe it does. We don't have the evidence.

grannieonabike · 08/11/2010 18:39

No we don't have the evidence, and of course we can't judge anything from a grainy CCTV image. However, the court saw the footage and decided the woman was innocent and the police officers were to blame. That's enough for me. Now I think the officers involved should be retrained and taught some respect and compassion for people.

I know they often have to put up with awful behaviour from members of the public, and I'm very sorry for that, but they should show us a good example. Don't you think?

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 09/11/2010 08:13

Woman was innocent != Police officers to blame.

ledkr · 09/11/2010 14:56

When you are taught restraint (and i did the same one as the police) you are taught safe and correct methods of doing so these are called "approved restraints" The standing on the woman and kneeling on her head are not "approved" therefore they are illegal restraints, regardless of the persons behaviour.I am not out to get the police i am married to a policeman,he aggrees that the officers in the film used more than is reasonable force and were definately using "illegal restraints" Regardless of what the film left out she was one woman and was contained in a cell and there were enough officers available to keep both themselves and the client safe.
For example there is a perfectly effective way of holding a persons head without kneeling on it which will keep the head still and not allow the person to bite or spit.Maybe the officers need to update their training.

Unhappyperson50 · 11/09/2013 22:02

They did the same kind of thing to me, I am currently speaking to a solicitor about this and he really is not a happy person with the way they treated me.

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