omg this is so scarey

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one day dd will be reliant on carers and nurses

Well if we stopped importing sub-standard staff, this would be less likely to happen.

nobody cares about social care, everyone thinks it does not affect them, nobody cares that the workers are under valued underpaid and often unregulated so that extremely low wages are paid

also many are agency workers with rubbish working conditions and nobody cares to check qualifications of train them adequately

there is no way I can see this improving in the foreseeable future but with an ageing population living longer and needing care, and children with disabilities living longer as well and surviving into adulthood this is a time bomb

imo that is why the "nurse" should be arrested, if she gets away with nearly murdering this man, what message does it send out?

My husband was ventilated via face mask. Initially he only needed to wear it at night, but got to the point where he needed it all the time.
He would like to have had a trach (into the neck) but social services would not fund nursing care. We were too worried that he would end up in hospital permanently.
He could have carers but not nurses. It was a risk we had to take to keep him living at home. So in actual fact the choice he had was stay at home and have unregulated carers, or have 'safe' care but live on a ward. Not much of a choice really.

A lot of carer agencies wouldn't administer medication either, although the agency failed to tell us that when we started with them. I was in hospital after having a baby and he was stuck at home with a carer saying the best she could do was put the pills in his hand, not much use when you can't move your arms.

I don't think he was in a care home, wasn't he at home?

Why the Trust are at fault - they contacted an agency who supply suitably qualified nurses -or so they said. Surely it's up to the agency and the individual nurse to say they have no one suitably qualified.

he wasnt in a care home he was at home i think

Did they charge from a low fee agency? I have no idea. If so then yes you are right - there will be a reason for low costs - there always is.

Did they choose a low fee agency?

Once again - I agree ExhaustedNurse, that is drummed into us. Why she thought she could do this shift is beyond me, totally!

Exactly, exhausted. I don't understand why she accepted the assignment.

I used to work with a young man who was ventilator dependant,
He lived at home with his family and all staff had 3 months training and worked in pairs at home and 3 when out,
It was terrifying when he went into respiratory arrest but it was second nature to know what to do,
I we practiced cpr frequently and always had an emergency plan for every situation,
I am totally shocked by this incident, it makes my blood run cold.

How do these people get funding for those sort of care packages?
After 5 years fighting we were given a care package that enabled us to pay minimum wage for about two thirds of the time. I did the rest even though it meant dcs were tied to the house. I tried to do nights as much as poss so I could work and do childcare in the daytime. I had to get up ten times or more a night, five to six nights a week.
It was only when we couldn't recruit anyone that they managed to up the money to about £8 per hour. We still couldn't recruit.
We had to do all recruiting, training and managing ourselves. This was a direct payments package, so we had to manage it ourselves. Social services would not help us out because they said that to be vent dependant in the community it had to be nursing care and we would only have had very limited care in the daytime due to finances.
We had to make do with putting cards in shop windows to recruit, and didn't usually get more than a couple of responses.

The story I saw said the agency knew full well they needed to send a nurse trained to look after this kind of patient but had 'no system' in place to make sure that actually happened. Disgusting.

My sister said she's worked with nurses from this agency and had actually considered it one of the better ones.

I do hope the chief executive of this agency is subject to action as stringent as that taken against the individual nurse.