David Miliband is quitting

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I think he is right tbh.

'Let's face it, they are both jews.'

Eh? Ed says he's an atheist.

tokyo great analysis. Now what do you think the heinous thing will be? Benefit cuts?

What has their religion (or lack of it) got to do with it.?

So what if they are Jews? Or atheists/taoists/Mormom/Church of the Flying Spagette Monster?

WTF??

Oh, it's on another thread, too, about bumsex, of course.

The anti-semite doesn't mean Jewish by religion, she means Jewish by race. Now, could she fuck off, please, because the stench is overpowering.

"Now what do you think the heinous thing will be? "

Hypothecating tuition fees to fund a nuclear power plant, just to piss Clegg's traitors MPs off on two fronts?

"Tony Blair was not an MP in 1979. David Cameron was not an MP in 1997."

But the big difference is that 1979 and 1997 were massive landslides for the new governments, which meant that they were almost automatically going to be the winners of the next election, and almost certainly the one following that.

It hardly needs pointing out that the Conservatives didn't even have a majority this time. Labour have every chance at the next election - with the right leader. Or I guess I should now say had every chance.

{Disclaimer - suddenly had a crisis of confidence over 1979 )

With the right leader, which they do not have.

Yep.

I am now officially a depressed lefty again .

Heard his speech yesterday. Felt deflated.

He's just too 6th form for my liking.

He was definitely channelling Eddie Jordan and Noel Edmonds on his doorstep though...

He's too public school sixth form.

Exactly.

Sorry tokyonambu, didn't read the second half your post properly

But if the tories proposed something so heinous they would prompt a no-confidence vote, would they not also risk losing the consequent election?

One of the greatest prime ministers we ever had was Jewish...

That shirt took my eyes out. What was he thinking?! You are right Noel Edmonds, that is what it was.

There is no way DM would come back to front bench. His letter seems to say he will go to academia. Harvard here we come.

Shall we start a new depressed lefties thread or shall we give Ed a chance?

Have you heard Ed speak? He really REALLY needs his adenoids fixing. I want him to stop talking as soon as he starts. Surely his voice makes him utterly unelectable?

How can people moan about Ed's voice while William Hague is still on telly?

"But if the tories proposed something so heinous they would prompt a no-confidence vote, would they not also risk losing the consequent election?"

I've set my Ouija Board to 1983. Voices are coming through. They're saying "we've been talking to Ed, and he thinks we have a point".

More seriously, Labour don't have anything even remotely approximating a manifesto. There are plenty of things that will convince the Lib Dems that they'll lose their seats, without being so toxic that they'll cost the Tories much in the way of seats. Labour lost the last election on economic competence (they'll look worse), not being believed (they'll look as bad) and immigration (they'll tear themselves to pieces). In an immediate election, people will vote for the devil they know will deliver stable government, even if it's horrible. ,

Ed seems a real dipstick judging by his R4 interview this morning. He did have a cold but rarely have I heard a politician sound so insincere, patronising and dimwitted. I was stunned by the interview even by the standards of most politicians. God help us.