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Changes to ESA/Work Capability Assessment

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Kaloki · 17/08/2010 13:33

DP just got a link to this from an M.E support group.

Information about it

Amendments

?The shock plans, for ?simplifying? the work capability assessment for employment and support allowance (ESA) include docking points from amputees who can lift and carry with their stumps. Claimants with speech problems who can write a sign saying, for example, ?The office is on fire!? will score no points for speech and deaf claimants who can read the sign will lose all their points for hearing.

?Meanwhile, for ?health and safety reasons? all points scored for problems with bending and kneeling are to be abolished and claimants who have difficulty walking can be assessed using imaginary wheelchairs.

?Claimants who have difficulty standing for any length of time will, under the plans, also have to show they have equal difficulty sitting, and vice versa, in order to score any points. And no matter how bad their problems with standing and sitting, they will not score enough points to be awarded ESA.

?In addition, almost half of the 41 mental health descriptors for which points can be scored are being removed from the new ?simpler? test, greatly reducing the chances of being found incapable of work due to such things as poor memory, confusion, depression and anxiety.

?There are some improvements to the test under the plans, including exemptions for people likely to be starting chemotherapy and more mental health grounds for being admitted to the support group. But the changes are overwhelmingly about pushing tens of thousands more people onto JSA.?

(In combination with reducing HB if you are on JSA long term - which most disabled people will be - that's going to be great isn't it?)

They are asking for people to write to [email protected] to talk about the proposed changes by Sept 10th.

Or to write to [email protected] about your experience of the work capability assessment.

Mind are also getting involved

As always this government are focused on looking after the vulnerable in society Hmm

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DetectivePotato · 17/08/2010 19:22

This is awful!!!!!

I have M.E. and had yet another assessment last year that said I cannot work, which I know very well that I can't. I don't know exactly what I get points for but under these rules, I would have no chance! Is it the same for your DP?

What exactly do they want us to write to them for? I will write.

herbietea · 17/08/2010 19:28

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GypsyMoth · 17/08/2010 19:36

but surely they are doing this with proper medical advice....not off the tops of their heads?

maybe my ex's lies about his 'disability' will now be exposed then? he'll be made to work and support his 4 children properly. can welcome that,because it really should show him for what he is

DetectivePotato · 17/08/2010 19:40

Its not good news for us who 1. have a condition that you can't actually test for, 2. have to struggle enough to get a diagnosis and people to accept that we are ill when we look totally fine and 3. how the hell are we suppose to prove that we cannot sustain an activity for any length of time under these ridiculous new rules? It was hard enough before when you saw a doctor you didn't know for all of 20 minutes to give them an insight into how hard it is for you. Its going to be almost impossible now!

herbietea · 17/08/2010 19:42

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Kaloki · 17/08/2010 23:11

If you read further in the that link you will see that this proposal is being considered by the coalition. And the second link is the proposal being looked at currently.

dragonfly I'm fairly cynical about their idea of "proper medical advice" after seeing my DP go through the capability assessment last year, where their doctor (and I use the term loosely) wrote both that "patient suffers from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" and a couple of sentences later "patient does not suffer fatigue"

DetectivePotato We've only just got the tribunal over and done with. Worried we'll have to do it all again. DP has mental health issues on top of ME, and I have mental health issues and a chronic (undiagnosed) back problem. Which are just about the most fun conditions to have to prove. Hmm

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DetectivePotato · 18/08/2010 10:17

Sounds like a total nightmare! I hate having to prove that I am ill. How can a 'doctor' say its CFS then say he doesn't suffer from fatigue! Where do they get these idiots from! Luckily most of the docs I have seen have been good. Seen the odd idiot but at least my own doctor is good.

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