Sean Jenkins Billie Jo 3 trials

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These trials are in the news today over non payment of compensation was in london and spent an afternoon at his 3rd Old Bailey trial.mr jenkins spoke in a whisper. It was very unusual. The judge said are you fit to go on. He said he was. He was finally found not guilty after 3 trials. And six years in prison. DO ANY OF YOU EVER VISIT COURTS?

I once visited Bow Street Magistrates, there was a homeless guy on trial who never said a word. He looked like he could have come straight out of a Dickens novel.

This really was a strange case. It looks like although they could not prove it, there was something there that didn't add up.

I think the jury failed to reach a verdict in two trials - not absolutely the same imo as being found not guilty.

As far as I remember it tho, we have to be proved guilty, not prove ourselves innocent.

FWIW (and I have not been in court when he was tried so prob not much) I have always thought he was probably innocent. At least, I got the impression that the police decided he was guilty early on and stopped looking for anyone else.

Indeed. His wife and daughters went half way across the world to get away from him - sounds like he's guilty of being a complete twat, but that's not the same as being a murderer.

In Sixth Year at school I visited a High Court trial (in Scotland).

It was a drugs and armed robbery case.

I was pretty shocked at how affected the lady who had been held up was. I was shocked at how the Accused's lawyer spoke to the police officers. I was shocked at how many times the entire jury had to leave the court so that they didn'r hear something that the rest of us were allowed to hear.

Being found not guilty is not the same thing as being proved innocent. Hence the lack of compensation. (Yes, I have been in a court, years ago, not sure how that is relevant.)

Hard to see what other explanation there is for the poor girl's death, tbh. If there was one, I'm sure his defence would have come up with it.

AFAIK compensation is usually paid for miscarriages of justice, where it is proved that the police or prosecution hid evidence that would have cleared the accused (e.g. Birmingham Six), where it is proved that someone else did it or that the accused could not have done it. Not sure any of this applies in his case.

Yes, wb and edam you are innocent until proved guilty in our courts. But it sometimes doesnot feel like that in court. It can seem as though working class defendants are facing middle class judges and lawyers. but the jury system seems to work pretty well.