How many more children are going to die before SOMEONE takes responsibility for their inaction?

[coventgarden]

This pisses me off so much. I know social workers have a had job to do but they are fucking up big time and have for years. I truly believe that until a SW actually has real consequences for their action, nothing will really change and kids will still be abused and killed.

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Who in their right mind would want to be a social worker? Would you coventgarden?
Huge caseloads, hamstrung by the human rights of the adults, no back up, dammed if they remove children, dammed if they don't and expected to be psychic.
I think it's mostly parents and other relatives that kill their children, rather than social workers isn't it? maybe that's where you should be pointing the flamethrower. And all the bloody relatives who did nothing to stop evil they knew was happening.
You haven't posted a link, is this just a general rant?

Exactly, Goblinchild. How sad that we need social workers to protect children from their evil relatives and the twisted people they allow to be around them. They have an almost impossible job to do - I am a nurse - (I used to be a HV). No way could I be a social worker.

I would love to be a social worker and after baby Peter died I emailed to ask about how I could help.

It isn't a rant. I am trying to have a debate because clearly there must be something I am missing that this keeps happening and no one is ever disciplined.

It was prompted now because of This.

Line management eventually leads to the top so direct some ire thataways

Is this about Khyra Ishaq?

Oh, I know it is the parents some of the time and Kyra's father is complaining but where was he in the months before she died? And if kids can't rely on parents to look after them and protect them, and social workers miss all the signs, what hope have they got?

BALD - My anger isn't directed at anyone on here.

Social workers are disciplined for their failings like any other professional group.
Children are abused and killed in the home becauyse their parents, carers and associated people choose to act in that way. Social workers protect many, many children - and are frequently attacked for doing so when it's seen as officious or interfering.
Op - your anger is misplaced. You need to be angry with a violent society not the human and fallible social workers working with it.

I take it that you were referring to Khyra Ishaq? The child who was starved to death.
The social workers were worried about their jobs, and the rights of the parents after a complaint was filed by the man involved about the involvement of the SS. The SWs obviously didn't feel that they'd get any support from anyone, so they weren't as brave and interventionist as they should have been.
But taking on home-edders? Ethnic minority home-edders? With a religious slant?
Look as the squealing that happens on parenting websites if someone is reported to SS for any reason. And the support, usually for someone you don't actually know that pours out from all corners.
It's not as if there weren't a hundred other cases that they could investigate instead, all involving vulnerable children at risk from their own families.

Social workers need back office staff to deal with the paperwork. Most of them I am sure are hard working and committed. From what I have gathered, it is paperwork gone mad when they carry out simple actions. I don't know who the policy people are, it is they who should sort it.

So who is at fault then?

that little girl's dad was quick enough to get himself on tv and start ranting about how social services had let her down - maybe if he had done something - bothered to see the kids perhaps? then the outcome would have been different. The families of these children need to take a long hard look at themselves before throwing blame around.

My cousin used to be a social worker. She loved it. Then she had her DS (now 9) and after that she just couldn't go back to it. She couldn't reconcile the way in which parents could treat their DCs (any level of neglect) with how she felt about her DS as a mother. It was a very difficult decision for her, but she felt like shaking some of the parents.

I wouldn't do that job for anything, and am hugely admiring of those who do do it.

'I would love to be a social worker and after baby Peter died I emailed to ask about how I could help.'

And what have you done as a consequence?

agree 100% with Nancy75

Nothing as yet as they said I needed a degree but I am constantly thinking of how I can do something. I am considering fostering too.

I agree too with Nancy75 but still wonder who the children have if the parents are crap.

Sorry Coventgarden but if you really want to do it then there are ways and means.

I have given up everything to become a social worker. I start my degree in September. Its been hard work studying to get a place and it will be hard work for the next 3 years

SW do has consequences- its called the GSSC. Look at the website at some of the hearings.

Children are always going to die at the hands of their carers and there will always be child abuse.

It is totally unrealistic and verging on deep craziness to think that social workers can ever stop any bad things from happening to children ever.

All they can do is their best. At the moment (and for the foreseeable future), that best has to be done under massive budgetary constraints.

Of course there are poor social workers, but there are also very good ones doing invaluable work.

Maybe not a good idea op, to tell the social workers what you think of their profession when they're assessing you for fostering!

BTW - you said 'My anger isn't directed at anyone on here. ' - social workers are mothers too. There are plenty of them on here.

I just knew this would go this way.

you speak great sense skid.

Skidoodly...you posted everything I was about to write.