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Cleaner issues

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LancashirePudding · 11/03/2016 17:18

I'm wondering if you can give me some advice about some problems I'm having with my cleaner at the moment. I really don’t know how to sort it out without causing upset.

I realise that this is probably the opposite problem that most people have, but my cleaner is supposed to clean the house for a set number of hours each week and is staying for far longer than I am paying her for- often staying for up to an hour or more over the time she is paid for. I dislike this because it effectively means that her hourly rate becomes lower, which I am very uncomfortable with. Also, if I am at home when she comes it's a bit difficult because it means I'm stuck in one room for longer in order to keep out of her way (she has previously spoken to me for quite some time about personal problems which, whilst I am sympathetic, I was finding myself getting more drawn into her personal life more than I felt comfortable with so I have consciously tried to take a step back).

I have spoken to her a number of times in person when I am there, and also by leaving notes, to ask her not to stay longer than the agreed number of hours. E.g. on a few occasions I have gone to whichever room she’s in and (nicely and with a big smile) reminded her that she's been here for X amount of time and to make sure that she heads off soon. I understand that on occasion she may want to stay for an extra five minutes or so to finish a particular job off so I have never done this at the exact point it's time for her to leave; I've always waited at least 15 mins after the time she's due to finish before doing this. She'll often still stay for quite a bit longer.

I’ve made it clear several times that I want her to leave after the set number of hours, regardless of whether she's done all of the usual cleaning jobs. I've suggested that she just clean some of the (infrequently used, so don't get very dirty) rooms every other week or stop cleaning some rooms altogether to reduce her workload to make it manageable in the set number of hours. I don't really know what else to do.

To be honest, I can't understand why she is staying for so long in the first place. I used to clean for a living myself so I do feel I have a realistic idea of how long it takes to clean the rooms. Sometimes she will take it upon herself to start cleaning rooms that she's never been supposed to clean. I have found this irritating and, at times, intrusive e.g. I once found that she'd been in the study and tidied away all of my private paperwork, including bank statements. She has never been due to clean that room (for the very reason that it contains private paperwork) and had never done so previously. The same thing happened with another room and I kept leaving notes saying please do not clean that room, but she kept doing so. In the end I had to leave quite a blunt note saying please do not ever go in that room at all. She replied to say that she'd only been doing a quick tidy in there, which was missing the point but has at least stopped cleaning that room since then.

If I don't already sound horrible and critical, I also feel like she's spending time doing unnecessary tasks e.g. going in my husband's (closed) chest of drawers and folding all the socks and underwear in there Shock, re-arranging throws that are already folded neatly, artfully arranging magazines that were in a tidy pile so that they are fanned out etc. Yet sometimes (not always) bits of the cleaning will have been missed e.g. parts of the worktop or floor won't have been cleaned.

I suppose what I'm wondering is how I can politely make sure that she stops staying for longer than she is supposed to, and isn't wasting time faffing about on jobs that look pretty but aren't actually cleaning.

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Keeptrudging · 17/03/2016 18:38

I would hate it every day. How about once a week, 2 cleaners for 2 hours, blitz the place. Minimises the 'invaded' feeling. We've got one comes for 2-3 hours a week, hoovers/dusts all rooms, mops all floors, both bathrooms, interior glass, blitzes kitchen etc.

What she doesn't do is tidy stuff away, so DD has to (at least) tidy her room before she comes, and I also 'clear the decks' the night before. Takes v little time. Most rooms don't need hoovered every day. Bathroom: train everyone to rinse the sink/shower every time. Children tidy/make beds/clothes in laundry every day (get a stricter nanny to train them).

mylife123 · 17/03/2016 21:47

The problem is you don't trust your cleaner. Every people is different cause in some people if you find something not right even the boss didn't tell you you have to do it before she notices it so might be she is doing the same she want to be perfect and try to do everything at your place OR you don't like that. Better you change a cleaner cause she will never changes if she is perfectionist. Moreover, Trust is important between cleaner and family. If you don't trust and don't like her then get rid of her.
That s why i said everybody is different cause she didn't ask you extra money when she is doing extra times she is just staying longer to try to finish her job.
The main problem is maybe you don't have a good communication each other or maybe you take a distance as you are a boss and she is cleaner . This situation make a cleaner ran away.

LottieDoubtie · 17/03/2016 21:59

mylife you seem to be missing the point here- the problem is the very opposite of the cleaner running away!

OP, you've tried, you've been clear verbally and in writing, she isn't following your (very reasonable) instructions. Honestly, let her go and find someone who will.

Whatdoiknow31 · 17/03/2016 22:06

Lancashirepudding im now in the exact same boat as you after what happened today with our cleaner - straw that broke the camels back you could say.

She was supposed to be here at 12.30, turned up at 1. I pay her for 3 hrs and give her £5 to cover petrol so no problem with being a bit late, except she is then here later which messes up family stuff. Our house is quite big, 3 bedrooms (only need her to clean two as third not used) two lounges (one not really used), kitchen diner, ensuite, bathroom, and utility room. We also have the office but don't have her clean in there as stated before.

Today she didn't go until 5, so that was 4hrs. 4hrs of us wondering what she was doing as we didn't hear the Hoover very much (I know there are other aspects to cleaning but normally the Hoover is on much more) I had to go out before she left but she told OH that her partner had rung her 4/5 times (he's always phoning her up) which is frustrating as for the whole time she is here we are holed up in the office to keep out of her way. Then to find she's probably spent an hour of that time on the phone?

For the first time we have had cause to check what work she's done and found the bath not cleaned or the main lounge not hoovered.

I think we need to call it a day, I just feel so uncomfortable with her here I am now not sure if I even want another cleaner.

But how to do it? She cleans for friends and family as well, who are never there when she goes I might add and think she's wonderful, apart from the stuff that gets broken. So I have to tread carefully as she has been known to tittle tattle in the past.

Let me know how you get on and if you have any tips they would be gratefully received! (Why is this so hard, I'm a grown woman ffs)

LottieDoubtie · 17/03/2016 22:14

Sack her and don't tell anyone about it, but if they ask tell them and don't lie either. A fair reference for what she's done (or not done). Other people are free to decide if they think the problem is you or her! I wouldn't lose sleep over it...

ArgyMargy · 18/03/2016 07:16

When I had a cleaner who wasn't from an agency (so not easy to fire), I said to her that I had changed my work hours and didn't need to have a cleaner any more. So I wasn't saying she was crap - although she was.

DanglyEarOrnaments · 18/03/2016 08:12

I think if a cleaning service does not suit you in any way shape or form you need to let them go and get yourself a different one who may suit you better.

If a cleaner does not respect you boundaries or personal space that is quite s serious issue and I wouldn't let her in again personally.

If she comes from an agency I would give them an honest account of what the problem was so that she can receive some additional training in customer care so that she can learn to better respect her other clients boundaries and no-go areas but you need them to send you another cleaner it is their problem to take care of not yours.

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