Let us speak of dishwasher design, my friends.

[BoffinMum]

So about the humble dishwasher. It fits neither pan, nor big plate, nor large wine glass, nor weird cooking utensil, nor cereal bowls, without a struggle. We all know this.

For the dishwasher designers, no doubt all male, think we are little wifies in the 1950s who serve 6 people meals on straight plates with 6 tea plates and 6 flattish soup plates, all neatly in a row, with six cups and saucers and six of each piece of cutlery, in an easily manageable format for dishwasher loading. They have no understanding of the anarchy that is the average household's dishwasher use in this post 1950s era.

Let us redesign the dishwasher for the modern age, oh great minds of Mumsnet. How would you change it so there was a flexible interior for the things we actually use as opposed to the ones we don't?

For said current dishwasher shortcomings get right on my tits.

Yep, my dad did that Anyone - he loves a good furtle about in u-bends . Still no joy.

I still think dishwashers need to be more like camera cases in that they should be infinitely flexible to accommodate big glasses, big plates, that kind of thing.

My Bosch is very flexible. It has 3 racks, all adjustable.
Fits everything and washes brilliantly.

BahHumbugs I took my "leg of lamb" roasting tray when I was cooker shopping a couple of years ago. The young lads in Currys looked at me oddly when I walked through the store holding it, but the older staff members understood straight away what I was doing.

snap BahHumbugs - I took my goose pan. , but only after getting a new oven a few years ago -come Christmas Day DH had to cut the legs off a very expensive goose.....
(On a side note, all ovens are smaller than my older ones - it was very tricky)

not bahhumbugs , but Emwithme !

I love our Miele dishwasher I can get pretty much everything in it and it washes everything fantastically (even though I use cheap 'shite according to Which?' Morrisons dishwasher tablets) - it was so good that even though it was integrated we brought it with us when we moved - we offered it to the purchasers but at full cost as I would have had to replace it like for like. They said they weren't bothered about having s dishwasher so it came with us.

bookbook yes, a teeny oven in a rental property was the reason I did this. Having to combine "will this feed everyone it needs to" with "and fit in the bastard oven" was a nightmare.

I am shortly going to be buying a range. I've narrowed it down to two, I now need to find somewhere that has both in stock so I can go with my pan(s) and see what goes where...

We have a built in skinny one, which makes no sense as the kitchen is huge - rental though, so not ours to change. I get wild excitement when I go to DM's, hers is regular size but it feels cavernous to me now I'm used to the skinny one!

DH won't let me put some of our pans in there as he's convinced that the dishwasher will ruin them in some unspecified way . That said, he doesn't trust me to wash them by hand either, horray .

My miele fits all of that. It lights up inside & has the salt compartment in the door.

I love it.