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Our cleaner didn't wash her hands after cleaning the toilet - ugh!...

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Teaandcupcakes · 27/06/2014 14:50

As our baby is due in a few weeks, we decided now is the time to get a cleaner to clean our flat every fortnight, to help us out and make things (a little bit!) easier when baby arrives.

Anyway, I woke up today feeling really relieved that someone else would be making our flat lovely and clean. But, alas, the day hasn't quite gone to plan!

So I don't end up going out and leaving the cleaner alone as planned (thank goodness), as I was feeling very tired and one of my feet was swollen, so I decided to chill on the sofa instead and let the cleaner get on with her work for 2 hours. She cleaned the bathroom and toilet first and then went straight into the bedrooms to work in them. I noticed that she came out of the toilet and didn't wash her hands, but assumed she was wearing the new pair of rubber gloves I provided her with (as most people would wear gloves when cleaning a toilet - especially someone else's - right?!) and had taken them off, so didn't think much of it... She then came into the lounge to clean and then walked into the kitchen. It was at this point that I went into the kitchen to get a glass of water and noticed that she was about to pick up a sponge from a bucket - and it was the same sponge she had used in the bathroom and toilet!! SHOCK, HORROR. My OCD then kicked in and I started feeling really hot and my heart rate went up. She didn't speak very good English but I managed to explain to her that she needed to put that sponge in the bin and not use it anywhere else in the flat. I just about got her to understand this but she didn't understand that she needed to wash her hands too. I gave up in the end, knowing she only had the kitchen to clean and just telling myself I would have to reclean it afterwards (a complete waste of money and time I know, but I was frustrated and tired!).

But then it gets worse... As she was leaving, I noticed the rubber gloves still in their packaging, hiding under some sponges on the kitchen table. OH MY GOD... So she had cleaned the toilet with no gloves on, then cleaned our two bedrooms and our lounge (and touched dozens of personal items in all of these rooms) with "dirty" hands.

I quickly gave her the money and got her out of the house, then spent about 15 minutes fighting off tears (I didn't have the energy to go the other way and be angry!), knowing I then had to go around and clean everything she could have touched with antibacterial wipes... This process then took about 90 minutes and I must have used about 40 antibacterial wipes!!! But I obviously can't clean all the cushions and the sofa she touched, so I guess if I drop any sweets on the sofa over the next few weeks, I won't eat them! :)

What a complete waste of money and time. I am now going to complain to the agency (which had so many fantastic reviews on checkatrade!) and tell them how bad (and potentially dangerous to health) what she did was. I didn't see the point in telling her, as she couldn't understand what I was saying anyway.

It just makes me wonder how many other cleaners do this. Perhaps it happens all the time and people are not aware, as they are not at home when the cleaners work. I really hope not, but I am not going to trust anyone now without watching over them and giving very clear instructions at the start. I might even say leave the toilet altogether!

Sorry for the long post - but I feel a bit better now I have shared the story! Still very frustrated though about the whole situation and the amount of time I have wasted cleaning after a cleaner... Aaaagggh.

OP posts:
TKKW · 29/06/2014 21:03

I think you are over reacting a bit by antibac spraying everything but I understand your horror. Talk about thick! The agency need to be told.

MostWicked · 29/06/2014 21:20

There's probably more bacteria in your kitchen than there is in your toilet.

Whilst her cleaning may not have been of the standard that you require, your reaction was not healthy. The antibacterial wipes need to go in the bin, they are a waste of money. You have no idea if she washed her hands or not. How do you even know that she used the sponge on the toilet? She might have just used the toilet brush. Did you give her any instructions at all about what cleaning items to use on what things? She is going to get a complaint when you didn't show her exactly what you wanted and didn't give her chance to correct anything.

Pico2 · 29/06/2014 22:51

While I am not condoning what she did - it sounds pretty gross, I think you may not be cut out to have a cleaner. I have friends who are too obsessive about cleanliness to be able to have a cleaner. It just wouldn't work for them as they couldn't feel comfortable with a cleaner.

e1y1 · 29/06/2014 23:36

Cannot believe how many people on this thread are not bothered about cloths that have been used on the toilet being used elsewhere in the house!!!

Absolutely disgusting, it's nothing to do with trying to be sterile, it's basic hygiene. If you were running a food service, you'd be shut down.

Thankfully I don't have to go to their houses, as I'd struggle to even have a glass of water there.

I don't think you're over reacting at all OP. I wouldn't like the idea of basically shit all over my possessions.

Also to the mention of a child licking a toilet brush, not wanting this to sound personal, but how did the child even get access to it to lick it?

BackforGood · 29/06/2014 23:44

Complete over reaction which says a lot more about your OCD than the cleaner, tbh. Would you be able to get any support for that before the baby arrives (in at least in the early days?) as you are going to struggles greatly if not.

Purpleroxy · 29/06/2014 23:57

Disgusting. The op does not require treatment for OCD.

When babies poo or sick on stuff, you wash it or wipe it up etc. Yes they are messy but you clear it and a bit of baby poo or sick isn't gross.

4littleones · 30/06/2014 06:33

how do you know she used the sponge to clean the toilet? I would never use a sponge to clean a toilet. maybe she didn't either? and I am unsure how you know she didn't wash her hands as surely she was using water to clean the bathroom?

deepbluetr · 30/06/2014 06:56

I think you are over- reacting.

How did you know she didn't wash her hands after cleaning the loo? Is your toilet very dirty?

She sounds a bit like my OH. I have caught him washing out pet bowls with the wash-uo brush. He uses the same cloth to wipe the floor then the kitchen taps.
Not things I would do- but do you know we heve never been ill because of his slightly grubby ways.
Your cleaner is doing nothing that doesn't happen in every hotel and restaurant on a daily basis.

Ant bacterial wipes and spray are disgusting things- I wouldn't have them in the house.
Most contain Triclosan, a substance which accumulates in our bodies and can cause endocrine and hormore imbalance. It is particularly bad for pregnant women and babies. We use so much of it that it is accummulating in our environment, ends up in waterways and can be found in fish, cows milk, baby formula and even breast milk.

Tricloan is also implicated in the emergence of superbugs, germs that are resistent to antibiotics.

If you need a super clean home then hot soapy water is the better choice.

I would seek help with your OCD however. You may get a new cleaner but I doubt you will find one that meets your exacting standards.

Children thrive in a relaxed home.

deepbluetr · 30/06/2014 07:00

purpleroxy- the OP told us she has OCD

" My OCD then kicked in and I started feeling really hot and my heart rate went up."

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 30/06/2014 07:07

Just because the OP has ocd doesn't mean what the cleaner did wasn't revolting.

I can't believe there are so many posters who would be ok with this. The point of having a cleaner is to get the place clean! To posters who wouldn't mind-so you never wash your hands after going to the loo, because it's the same thing?!

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 30/06/2014 07:11

Insisting on separate cloths doesn't mean the OP's baby won't develop a healthy immune system, there is a middle ground of basic cleanliness.

deepbluetr · 30/06/2014 07:37

No -one is suggesting that separate cloths is uneccessary- I think we all agree on that point, it's the OP's reaction which is very excessive.
Surely a simple explanation to the cleaner would have done to make sure she knows what is required of her. Rather than:

"OH MY GOD... So she had cleaned the toilet with no gloves on, then cleaned our two bedrooms and our lounge (and touched dozens of personal items in all of these rooms) with "dirty" hands."

"15 minutes fighting off tears"

"I then had to go around and clean everything she could have touched with antibacterial wipes... This process then took about 90 minutes and I must have used about 40 antibacterial wipes!!! But I obviously can't clean all the cushions and the sofa she touched,"

You think that response is healthy just because the wrong sponge had been used?

"15 minutes in tears"- I'm sorry that is way over the top, over a cleaning cloth?

ThHis is the real issue here. The OP sounds as if she has some real anxiety issues over cleanliness. I am no GP but it can't be very life enhancing to get into such a state about a sponge.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 30/06/2014 07:51

I wouldn't have the cleaner back, if she doesn't know to use separate cloths she shouldn't be a cleaner, that is such basic hygiene.

Yes, the OP over reacted, you tend to do that when you have ocd, it doesn't mean what the cleaner did was acceptable.

LIZS · 30/06/2014 08:01

How do you know she didn't wash her hands before leaving the bathroom? Surely she would have been running taps and splashing water around the sink and bath anyway. If the last thing you heard was her flushing the loo before moving on she may have done that first, washed the rest and then flushed away bleach/cleaner, having previously cleaned the handle.

BackforGood · 30/06/2014 13:45

What deepbluetr and LIZS have said in the last few posts.

dianeG23 · 03/07/2014 23:41

I am a mum, looking for a cleaning job. I am very hardworking and trustworthy and I enjoy cleaning a lot. Should you need help with your household, please let me know. Thank you.
Diane

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