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Is it October already the fledglings utter? We'll Fly with our broom sticks and start to declutter...

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Slimchance · 30/09/2013 13:21

If you are strugging with C.H.A.O.S. (can't have anyone over syndrome) and S.T.U.F.F. (something that undermines family fun) then this is the thread where we (loosely) follow the step-by-step Flylady housekeeping system (in our own, unique, relaxed style) with lots of chat, support and Wine and Cake along the way.

This little-and-often system is designed so that you can follow a series of steps and routines each day (which gradually become second nature) in zones of the house which are designated weekly; defining and minimising housework - which in theory should leave you with loads more time to do someting more interesting instead!

At the same time it is intended to reduce that panicky "rabbit in headlights" feeling when you are overwhelmed and everything needs doing all at once. No problem if you miss a day or two; just jump right back in and it will all come around next month again!

We advise not signing up to receive the Flylady e-mails as you will be inundated! All the information you need will be linked here on a daily basis.

From the first of the month, we will be following Flylady's steps and routines using a three-pronged approach (dependent on the stage everyone is at):

  • start or repeat baby steps
  • repeat baby steps + do 15 mins a day decluttering in the current zone
  • reinforce babysteps and do daily missions if you have finished decluttering.

[And if you are really enthusiastic and have finished decluttering - you can go on to detailed deep cleaning in each zone.]

More info here on getting started and Flying lessons. Here's the launch pad for more experienced fledglings. Don't be put off by the barf-tastic language of the site - the underlying system is sound!

Humungous thanks to Whoknows for leading us through the tricky start to the academic year ....Thanks

All welcome!!

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feetheart · 14/10/2013 22:26

ellie - teachers of all kinds have my utter respect but secondary school teachers even more so. Have a Wine on me and I hope tomorrow is better. Good luck on the school-choosing for DS, doing the same here though we are just out of catchment for the two that DD wants as No1 and 2. As the council are to stop free transport to the Catholic secondary we are unsure how many local children, who would have gone there, will now take up local places so it is going to be a bit tense until March.
Impressive list too, that wasn't 'small' at all.
Also sympathies re working all hours self-employed DHs - mine did a round trip to Nottingham today (from previously mentioned Lorraine Chase, southern airport town) then disappeared to sort someone else out, came in at 8.30pm and disappeared to bed before 9.30!

Happy birthday tomorrow to LittleEngels - pizza and cake sound like my perfect birthday Halloween Smile

Impressive lists Bitchy

Toffee - glad things are going so well for DS, you have all worked so hard to get to this stage. I know you said you were looking forward to getting stuck into the house but take some time for yourself too, doubt you haven't had much of that for the past x months/years

Ta da:

  • Kept builder topped up with tea
  • Hung washing out for few hours before predicted rain but failed to bring it in again in time so it got soaked again Halloween Angry
  • Filed a few receipts in 'new' filing set-up
  • Rung friend in flat below mine
  • Texted b*t*d tenant re plumber visiting
  • Boxes in loft
  • Sainsburys order started
  • Homework supervised
  • Made oxtail soup for slow cooker - never made it before but someone gave us some oxtail so thought it would be rude not to try and use it. Smells good so far.

Bed now as will be awake at silly o'clock so will probably go for a run.

Night night [thlbear]

feetheart · 14/10/2013 22:27

Halloween bear was worth a try Halloween Smile

milktraylady · 14/10/2013 22:33

Hi can I join in?
I used to do fly lady but I've fallen off the wagon. Baby is 6 months old today & she slept for 45 mins after swimming this morning. Which is 45 mins longer than she ever has before! I got soooo much done- after lurking on this thread for the last few days.

Planning to move house ASAP (probably next year) so all the decluttering has a real meaning to it now. Ie- will we need it when we move? If not- charity/tip!

I have loads of stuff to eBay but I am a champion procrastinator Hmm

Can I ask- is it normal to do at least 1 load of washing each day? My baby isn't very sicky, yet the washing is never ending Confused

My DH is super (does all our cooking) but is a disaster when it comes to tidying/ cleaning etc. if I move where stuff 'lives' he goes nuts.
I don't get how I know where things are & he doesn't. We've lived in the same bleedin house for 5 years!!! Wink

I keep measuring how dirty the house is by the age of baby- last time i cleaned that was pre baby/ pre pregnancy- yuk!

Heeeelp me!

GoingGoingGoth · 14/10/2013 22:40

Evening all, just checking in.

DD's birthday (Friday) went great Grin, and it's been lovely spending time with DParents. DM has been helping with my ironing (she volunteered)

Not much Flying done, but flat still reasonable, have been keeping on top of routines and laundry, and DH has been keeping tidy.

Back to normal on Wednesday, apart from it being half term.

Swanhilda · 14/10/2013 23:01

nice quiet day here.
Counted money
Made soup
Had nap Blush {got up very very early is my excuse}

Ellie poor you, what a horrible day - you are brave and professional to keep dealing with teenagers week after week, I don't think many people manage even their own teenagers Sad I know my mum found my brothers awful - she still shudders when she remembers the years between 11 and 18 ( I remember her once locking my brother in the garden he was so threatening Sad He is fine now, of course, being 40 Hmm
Toffee you have put him on the road to independence and confidence, so you should feel proud of yourself as well as him.

Castle hello!

I've spent a lovely evening listening to ds1 sing me songs from Les Miserables, and a slightly less lovely time dissuading dd from blasting the chandeliers off. Ds2 has been fine. Ds1 helped me unload dw quite matterof factly - I can't believe I have won that battle - he now seems to think chores are normalish, as long as I don't ask him to tidy his room, which he finds an incomprehensible and impossible task. He will carry heavy bags, put clothes in washing machine, put out rubbish, load dw, lay table. Of course he should he is 13!! Nearly old enough for a job 100 years ago.

Swanhilda · 14/10/2013 23:06

milktray, bibs can be wonderful things. I think Victorian children had little overalls that kept the washing down a bit. I feel I need a personal overall so I can get through day myself without looking completely grubby by 6pm

I'm afraid I do now at least three loads of washing a day, including sheets for five people over the week. It feels completely unending, you are right there. I packed half the clothes away in the loft to try and reduce washing, and of course promptly ran out of clothes, so there doesn'ts eem to be a solution.

Bitchy ds sounds very sweet sleepy

BitchytheGreat · 14/10/2013 23:44

Halloween Grin he looks like an angel when he is asleep, also when he was curled up. Very nice as it has been a while since he last did that and tbh he is getting a tad to big for it these days. Just wish the shouting bit wasn't such a common occurance. As for the homework hell. Next half term it is his father's problem. If he thinks he can get him to do it without fuss, then he can try and I will enjoy doing fun stuff instead.

BitchytheGreat · 15/10/2013 06:05

Yeah so today is off to a fabulous start.

ta da
Get irrationally annoyed at my alarm
Sort stuff for going in post -need to pick up envelop
breakfast and coffee
shower and hairwash
pack stuff for banking, shopping (need trouser size), shopping list etc
wonder how the fuck a pair of pe shorts can go missing from the washing machine/tumbler dryer
put together ds' pe kit (sneaking in a no regulation pair of shorts) and put on peg
sort training stuff
cry when discovering that yesterday's stuff evaporated when the broswers shut down last night and a few hours are going to be needed to trawl through history to refind links needed
Give serious thought to sending ex a snotty txt re half term arrangements decide polite but firm is way forward
look for today's to do list that was written last night
Try and figure out what to do re ds' training later - play by ear i guess is the best route

Slimchance · 15/10/2013 07:33

Morning all. Hope everyone OK. Unbelievably, we are already half way through the month. How on earth did that happen?

Bit worried this morning as dh has just departed to have his endoscopy. Apparently very standard post op check here so nothing to worry about hopefully but don't think he is looking forward to it and of course being deprived of breakfast when you are dh is tantamount to a national tragedy.

Today's baby-step, no. 15, for Tues 15th Oct is here add making your bed to your routines.

We are in Zone 3 this week; the bathroom plus one extra room.

Once zone 3 is totally clutter-free, you can go on to detailed cleaning.

Today's mission is: here wiping away smudges from door facings, door knobs and switch plates in the bathroom, plus a 5 min room rescue in your "dash and stash" room ie the one where junk is dumped.

The daily focus for Tuesday is planning ie budgets, medical appts, hair cuts, holidays, present-buying, meals, travel etc.

The habit for October is still clearing paper clutter.

Today's flight plan is here.

Have a good Tuesday everyone!

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tigger32 · 15/10/2013 08:02

Hello, would it be ok if I joined you all please?
I have "done" fly lady before and did actually manage to sort my house out (ish).
Anyway I thought I'd start at baby step 1 and do a couple a day to catch up, and then do the zone as advised each day. It's been a long time but I really do need to get sorted.Smile

Slimchance · 15/10/2013 08:58

[inhales Bitchys vat of coffee gratefully]

[passes mug of extra strong brew to Ellie]

Engels Gelukkige Verjaardag to your ds! Hope you all have a lovely day! [Warbles "Lang zal hij leven, Lang zal hij leven, Lang zal hij leven, In de gloria" etc etc "Hip, hip, hip hoera!!" Grin]

Jemima How did the interview go?

Just hope you are surviving your extra- demanding temporary schedule.

Honu hope you have managed to battle through the bureaucracy and access the support you need [pigs will fly and all that I know ...].

Brill ta da list Bitchy but sorry to hear about browser. Hope you can retrieve links (and missing PE shorts). Love the sound of a pudding party Grin and aw at your sleeping angel.

This never happens but DD and I actually had fun doing homework last night Shock which was a lovely break from the usual shouting. We were tackling the PPCM or plus petit commun multiple, a.k.a. the lowest common denominator and it turned out she was a lot faster than her mother at it Blush. So there is definitely hope!

Swan glad you had a well-deserved calm day yesterday. YOu have inspired me to keep persisting on the chore front with dd. We had a marvellous timetable/chart at the beginning of term which has already fallen to the wayside (completely my fault).

A very warm welcome to MilkTrayLady (love the nickname ... and all because etc etc Grin) Anyway, you have come to the right place. Yes, I am afraid I think that one load of washing a day (partic with a baby) is completely normal.

But sympathies to all of you battling with the never-ending laundry pile. We are only 3 and I still have to make an effort to keep on top of it every day - goodness knows how those of you with larger families do it.

[I don't suppose you could send out the bed-linen could you Swan or would that be prohibitively expensive? My late ma did that in her latter years and found it a huge time-saver.]

Milktraylady hopefully, once the clutter has been reduced, your dh will be a bit more relaxed about moving it to a different place, because it will be more obvious where it is ifyswim. Could you poss ring-fence a time each evening with him (say 30 mins per night) when you go through the pile you have sorted that day and then both allocate to a particular place or chuck? Btw, I think you are being v. hard on yourself - Flying with a baby - or any sort of housework - is tough-going!

Great to hear that your dd had a lovely birthday Goth and that your dps enjoyed it too. That "house-looking-good-post-visitor-period" is always rather nice and usually lasts less than a day here Wink. The trick, as you have been doing, is to capitalise on the tidiness, something I always fail to do Blush.

Feetheart wow - v. impressed with your oxtail cooking!! Love oxtail soup - perfect for this weather. Hope the tenant situation is improving and that the end of the building work is in site [spot the deliberate pun Grin ]. You have had to put up with it for seemingly ages ... . V. impressed with such a substantial ta da list after such a busy weekend too.

Whoknows try not to worry about your cats - you are patently a fab owner!!

I hereby nominate Dizzy for quote of the day >"House is looking very odd i.e. clean and tidy!" Grin a testament to your high Flying!

Pushme oooh thanks for potted meat recipe!! Sounds really fab!! Although have been trying to describe brisket to my French butcher for almost a decade and he still doesn't get it ...one for when I am in Blighty I think. I'm with you on the diet front - I have come to a bit of a standstill too over the last fortnight. It's a hard time of year for it when the weather turns cold and dark. Soup is the answer I think.

[Having said that, hovers outside Castle's kitchen waiting for lasagne]

Total respect to you Ellie for the impressive cock handling Wink Grin. Seriously though, don't know how you do it. Will be coming to you for advice on how to cope with teenagers in a couple of years; am terrified at the prospect. Top marks for your substantial Ta Da list and hope you have a better day today!

Hope you have a better day today too Blue!! There are actually blue skies here for the first time in days so hopefully dc can run off a bit of energy again ... .

Toffee hope all goes well for your ds1 on Wednesday! So glad the preparatory meeting went well. Ditto what everyone else has said about feeling proud of yourself as well as him! Thanks And fwiw, I know it's hard, but I wouldn't feel too guilty about your df with the vomiting child. You have all been in the wars recently (have only just recovered in fact) and another bout of illness just when your ds1 is returning to school would be totally demoralising; esp. when you volunteered to do the shopping anyway.

Which reminds me, sympathies to all the fledglings on here who dh's are self-employed (think there are quite a few of us now). I know from long experience that it can be really, really tough when they are constantly travelling and working all hours ... .

Huge waves to everyone I've missed!

Right, am off out this morning to do some volunteering. Only a quarter -day though because collecting dh from clinic at noon.

[Sorry that was more even more long and wind-bagging than usual Grin]

Have a good day everyone!

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Slimchance · 15/10/2013 09:03

oops - "whose" husbands ...

x post

A very warm welcome to Tiger32! Just jump right in! (And don't worry - we are very "ish" about Flying on here too!)

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Swanhilda · 15/10/2013 09:40

oh this thread is always such a friendly place Smile

done
up early, kids to school, ds2 accompanied to Tube
brisk walk for 20 mins
nice long chat with dh over coffee before 9am

However - that done, was feeling an anxious dread creeping up on me about today, but will try and stick to basics:

make beds
go to Town Council and buy residents' parking tickets
go and pay piano tuner cash as my cheque bounced Blush
cash flow - sort out with bank
open blinds in my bedroom, then try and do some tidying there - it is apalling
tidy kitchen for visitors this evening (just drinks, nothing fancy, so don't know why I am worrying - still, I need to buy some drinks/soft drinks, and snack)
pick up prescription
children home at 4am, rest of afternoon stuff with them
more washing more washing and putting away

try and fit in some piano practice for 20 mins
ditto nap and reading book for 30 mins after 1.30pm

Swanhilda · 15/10/2013 09:43

Which reminds me, Dh is now self-employed and it has been so much easier Blush. So far he is travelling much less, and the only drawback is that he complains more about the housekeeping arrangements, being witness to their execution! Also feels he never stops working now, as the computer is always ready to call him back to "work stuff" in his study. He said the real issue was now needing a non-work fun hobby, as he used to just enjoy sitting in his study of an evening, pottering, when he had an office in town, but now it is his office it is not quite so fun!

Swanhilda · 15/10/2013 09:47

Children not home at 4am but 4pm, that does sound alarming!!!Shock

Oh yes, and soup for supper was not a success. Everyone thought it was just the starter! Dd started floating slices of cucumber in hers and then refused to eat the rest, and ds1 poured so much worcester sauce in to make it tasty it resembled gravy Hmm Will return to more standard fare Blush

WhoKnowsWhereTheBonnetsGo · 15/10/2013 10:26

Mine's another self employed DH, he runs a business rather than being a one man band, but it does mean very erratic hours, often at no notice at all (eg rings up at 6pm to say he won't be home till 11). I do get a bit tired of having to put his dinners in the freezer!

Day off work today, just soaking the labels off some jars to make mincemeat later. Have done the basic routines, got some washing on, pondered what I am going to do with this weeks veg box contents (might not do soup Swan - that's exactly the sort of scenario that occurs here), set up safeguards on new Ipad.

Welcome to the new people, this is a lovely thread, very helpful and supportive.

Slimchance · 15/10/2013 14:12

[Looks disconcertedly at butter nut squash soup in preparation for supper tonight Grin]

Hope your day is turning out to be not as anxiety provoking as anticipated Swan.

You are very organised to be thinking of mincemeat in October Whoknows.

I understand completely about last minute changes of plans and the stresses involved (sometimes I feel it would be easier to be totally on one's own than having to accommodate them all the time - although I know in reality that's not true). At least when dh's are self-employed their stresses are their own, rather than imposed from outside or above, which I think is worse tbh.

Speaking of changing plans, bit of a damp squib here. Having moved around loads of meetings and put other arrangements in place to accommodate the consultant, after a quick chat this morning, dh's procedure has been postponed until next week and unfortunately, for various reasons, he now has to have a colonoscopy as well. So now there are more meetings to move around. And so it goes on ... Confused.

Had better get back to it ...

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tigger32 · 15/10/2013 15:02

Thank you for the warm welcome Smile
I have tried to start off slowly today Confused and it appears I have achieved next to nothing!Blush
I did manage to spend far too much in Asda though.
Shopping is away and ds3 collected from preschool.
A trip to the Park- done
So plenty of avoidance here!
When I return from the school run I will;
Empty and reload the dishwasher
Shine my sink
Check out what I should be doing in the bathroom.
Cook dinner
Go to college.
I will get my house clean (ish) and tidy (ish). Grin

Swanhilda · 15/10/2013 15:55

so far have

paid piano tuner
walked, carry heavy bags uphill
shopped at Lidl
discussed finances with DH Hmm
made chocolate cake
made pork and ginger stew, oh I left out orange, I knew there wsa something wrong with the aroma..

not an especially good day, anxiety has continued..more walking in order

BitchytheGreat · 15/10/2013 18:31

I. want. my. bed.
too much to do. no fucking energy. Sleep is soo soo soo needed.
Naughty corner is full of comfy cushions and soft blankies for all who need them!!

IBelieveInEngels · 15/10/2013 19:30

Mixed day here for me...

Washing up
One set of marking for school
Ds's birthday (packed him off to nursery with cheese scones and he came home shattered after refusing to sleep).
Celebration dinner of pizza (made with my own fair hand) and profiteroles (thank you Albert Heijn...the Sainsbury's of Holland Grin )
Traipsed into town in the rain to look for scrummy Clarks boots I've had my eye on online only to find they don't have them in store so I'll have to order online and wait! (the cheek of it)

Little bean unfortunately not a sticky one Sad Will take a pg test next week, but am 99% sure that this one wasn't meant to be.

I will be collapsing in the naughty corner with Bitchy's softest blankie and plumpest cushion shortly with a large vat of Wine

elliepac · 15/10/2013 19:32

Evening all. Thankfully a much better day today. The teenage boys who were cocks yesterday were given a bollocking by me at the beginning of today's lesson which resulted in them apologising and not being cocks today. They were almost pleasantGrin. And the rest of my classes were utterly adorable so I like my job again.

Had DD's parents evening and it was fabulous although she is apparently quite quiet at school which is a little confuddling as at home she is a feisty young lady.

Ta da:-
Morning routine
Work
Dinner
Washing up
Washing on
Uniform laid out
General tidy downstairs

On a less positive note, DH dad is in hospitalHmm. DH has a rather strained relationship with his Dad and hasn't seen him for a while but nevertheless. He has gone up to the hospital to see him. Not entirely aure exactly what is wrong with him as yet but all we know is that he had a fall yesterday and it sounds as if he couldn't reach the emergency cord and had been lying on the floor overnight until somebody found him this morning which is horrible.Hmm

Back later.

elliepac · 15/10/2013 19:38

X-posts with engels. Happy Birthday to DSGrin. Hmm about bean. ((Hugs)).

IBelieveInEngels · 15/10/2013 19:42

Oh no ellie hope he's okay.

IBelieveInEngels · 15/10/2013 20:50

Last few ta das...

Ordered birthday cakes for Sunday
Spent $$$ (can't work out how to add euro sign!) on vair expensive boots whihc should arrive Monday (and still cost less than the guitar DH bought last week so he can't complain).