integrated vs non-integrated dishwashers

[Keenoonvino]

our dishwasher packed up a few months ago. It was integrated (ie, from the outside it looked like any other kitchen cabinet)

we are looking to get another one, and I'm not fussed having it "match" the kitchen cabinets, I don't care if it looks like a dishwasher. The different ones on the website are labelled as either "integrated" or not. If I buy a normal one, and ask for it to be installed, am I right in thinking that they will put it in exactly the same place, but it just won't have the kitchen cabinet door on it?

Sorry for the stupid questions!

Yes, it will just replace the old one. You may need to have the boards underneath the cabinets (can't think what they are called) trimmed to accommodate it.

"Integrated" just means it has a posh trim on the front to match the cupboards. I find they are often more expensive, and there is less choice. If fitted badly they can leak or not close properly, and it's a bugger to sort out.

A normal one is easier to install, service or replace, and costs less for the same quality.

Thankyou both. I just wanted to check that just because the broken one I have now is integrated doesn't mean that I can't buy a new one that isn't integrated.

** Thank you

The plinth Cointreau
The only difference afaic is that they charge stupid bloody prices to nail a bit of melamine or wood to the front of it so it matches.

Aaah, plinth.....that's the fella.

John Lewis will not install a freestanding dishwasher when the one you have currently is integrated. Is this going to be a common problem? If so, what can I do??

You don't need anyone to install it. You will have to remove the current kick boards. Take out current dishwasher-unattach (water off). Pull out. Reattach new dishwasher push in, cut kick board to size put back on, voila. We have done it, very simple.

Johnlewis or anyone else won't do it as they won't remove the kick boards. Their installers haven't got the time and if they damaged the kick boards people would get cross.

If you grab the plinth and pull hard it will probably come off. They are usually attached with spring clips to the unit legs. It may be easier to start at one end.