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The minimalist quiche

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educatingarti · 23/01/2013 12:47

This is a new thread to replace the minimalist journey one which is nearly full!

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MinimalistMommi · 17/02/2013 18:02

Random observation about children and 'stuff':

What I have found from moving house about two weeks ago, is that as far as children are concerned, out of sight really is out of mind. There is large, tall box full of bits and bobs for their room (which was really very minimalist anyway) and the children haven't asked for anything from it and I'm hard pressed to remember what is inside too. It is currently sitting on our landing, in the way.

It made me realise that my children spend a lot of their time either reading or drawing or playing make believe games (about sharks the past couple of days and repunzel) and there really isn't much more they 'need' in terms of physical objects. I am popping out to the art shop next week though to get a large, good quality tin of water colour paints as I thought this would be quite good as a soothing after-school activity and good for un-winding with minimal clean up.

Other random thought: My older girl loves her 'rose pillow'! And carries it around the house to places where she can get comfy with a book and a quilt and seems very content like that. When she comes in from school she always runs upstairs and grabs her book and her pillow and comes down the sofa to get cosy. Her pillow is obviously important to her, it's just like how I like to sit with blankets and a hot water bottle in the evening Grin

So next week, I need to take a look inside that box and see exactly what is in there.

Having moved somewhere small makes me realise how many objects around the home I don't actually need so we can definitely go more minimal. We have a pile of things on the landing which we are just not using. They're sort of teetering in a tower against the wall....

MinimalistMommi · 17/02/2013 18:06

MrsPennyapple try and have a chat with your MIL, it used to seriously wind me up!

MinimalistMommi · 17/02/2013 18:09

Sokmonsta just read what you wrote about your coffee table removal a few pages back, it's lovely seeing new space isn't it?!

MinimalistMommi · 17/02/2013 18:15

Sokmonsta said upthread: "Eminemmerdale. Def hit the one space hard first off. I was overwhelmed with piles and piles of stuff. Just tidying the hall (albeit stuff up in loft to sort later) gave me a great incentive to keep going. I can now happily let my youngest crawl round it.

We have a teeny 2 bed house and 4 children so I feel your pain. I'm working through a check list of things to do as it is quite satisfying to see them checked off. Although I am only putting half a dozen items on there at a time. There is so much to do, if I wrote down everything on one list, I would get disheartened again.

Storage is becoming interesting here. We have a friend with rental storage unit. He's offered us to use it to help declutter. Part of me wants to leap at it. The other, rational part, says further out of sight is further out of mind. However, I am thinking it would perhaps be sensible to sort stuff out here then take the stuff I can carboot there until the weather is a little better. Ideas ladies?"

Sokmonsta how do you make the space work for all of you?

We're a family of four in a teeny two bed terraced cottage (with the front door opening directly into front room which then leads into dining room and then through to galley kitchen. Two bedrooms upstairs and bathroom. The two girls share a room. Me and DH have master bedroom. It's approx 500 sq ft)

blossombath · 17/02/2013 19:19

Hello, checking in for my weekly update and so much happening. Welcome to all new people and de lurkers, this is one aspect of the quiche where we can say more the merrier Smile

eminem it sounds like you have got off to a great start, but if you (or anyone else ) start to flag I found this post a useful refresher on clearing out which has helped me get my minimalist mojo back after a few weeks struggling.

Free cycled a juicer, hair tongs and a chest of drawers this week, felt great as the drawers have been with me since I was a teenager. I am quite attached to them and had been reluctant to part but since we minimaliased living room we just have no need or place for them. The people who picked them up seemed like students and were so glad to get them, I felt pleased even though I fet a touch nostalgic/sad to see them go. Nice that someone will use tem well.

Anyway the whole thing made me feel positive about letting go of things with so e emotional tug, since the positive feelings far outweighed the sadness.

Now to set myself goals for this week....

becstarlightstarbright · 17/02/2013 20:23

Wow, you are all so inspiring! Glad the sale went well hobnob. Really interesting to hear how your kids are coping with the move MinimalistMommi. We're just about to move to somewhere with less storage space and even though I've been decluttering and deowning for a couple of years this is a big challenge and I'm having a bit of a moment... So here's a confession - I haven't used Freecycle yet. Could you guys give me an indication on how much time I'd need to invest in using it to give some stuff away? I'm working full time until June, and in the evenings I'm cooking, helping DS with homework, eating dinner then collapsing exhausted. I'm a bit worried that people would expect me to be in at specific times to give them stuff. How do you cope with that? I've done an inventory of all the things that 'need to go'. And I'm a bit overwhelmed by it. I'm going to paste it here. If anyone is able to pat me on the shoulder say 'there, there', 'don't worry, you'll manage to get rid of it all before you move' and any practical advice on how to manage it while still going to work etc... Here is the List of Doom:
A6 poster and frame
unwanted toiletries
Plastic underbed Storage trolleys
Old mattress
Folding card table
Empty lever arch files
Empty magazine holders
Muji Shelf unit - LP record size, six shelves high
Gym Ball ? giant inflatable
Squash Racquet
Antique style cream and blue repurposed phone
Ikea roll up silver and white storage unit in chimney
Extra CDs and DVDs
Misc. books
Kettle (not electric ? one to sit on hob)
Mug tree
2 wire storage trolleys
Old biscuit tins
Toaster
Wire in-tray
Wire Homebase Cutlery stand
Wicker baskets
Plant pots and bricks
Metal outdoor table
Blue and red step for a child to reach taps etc.
Old bedding and towels
Metal Ikea lidded dustbin
Tall shelf unit
Ikea mini table and chairs for toddler
Old picnic blankets
Travel Cot
White Ikea Cot
Tripp Trapp Chair
Stairgate
Turntable
Tape Deck
Ikea table with red legs
ELC Keyboard
Balance bike
Empty plastic storage boxes
Spare books stored in garage
Wire Muji chest of drawers
Outdoor plastic skittles
Old trainers
Box of toys and kids DVDs

I know how our ex-neighbours coped with this - they piled it all in the street, moved away and left someone else to deal with it! I had no sympathy at the time but looking at the above list I feel totally overwhelmed wondering how on earth we'll get rid of it all... Having a moment!

Paintyourbox · 17/02/2013 20:43

Hi everyone,

This house is driving me mad tonight, everywhere I look I see junk and its winding me up!

I signed up to Freecycle but every time I try to post an ad it crashes so I feel a bit annoyed with the whole thing.

I am ashamed to say I also found an entire box of toys that belong to DD- we had totally forgotten that she even owned them. They are mainly cuddly toys that we got as gifts when she was born, DP has suggested doing an "edit" and getting rid of some of them.

Also got three more bags of stuff for doing a car boot (need to check when my neighbour is free as we do them together so we can mind each others stalls)

Now for my teenage strop- I want a clutter free home and I want one now!!

MinimalistMommi · 17/02/2013 20:48

becstar is there not a local charity that could take all this stuff and distribute it locally for people in need? I'm thinking it would take so much stress off you in one go if they sent a van, especially for the furniture.

We're near a Trussel Trust charity and I know they would send a van for free for all the furniture. I'm sure they would take the other stuff while they were at it too.

eminemmerdale · 17/02/2013 21:22

I love that site - D for decluttering - yes! We have done, it's true, a couple of 'biggish' things this weekend - got rid of the fridge, moved some furniture around which has created space, but the main things have been 'little', just going through small areas (on top of a bookcase; the bags and containers all over the bedroom etc) and throwing away things like rusty paperclips, parts of pens, empty tubes of moisturiser - dh found three empty aftershave bottles just shoved in a container on his chest of drawers. We got three bags of videos in the loft and filled three bin bags of clothes to go to the charity shops. I have a day off on Friday and am going to do each of the four small draers on our desk, then perhps the kitchen drawers. It is so rewarding!

becstarlightstarbright · 17/02/2013 21:31

MinimalistMommi - thank you so much for giving me that bit of clarity. One google search and an e-mail sent to a charity later and I don't feel so overwhelmed. Even if they don't want all of it, if they take half of it I'll feel more in control. In fact I feel more in control from just having sent the e-mail!

Sometimes just looking at the 'stuff' is paralysing, and I'm so tempted to shut the cupboard/garage door and run away! But isn't it crazy that I spent money/time/energy on this stuff and then become so imprisoned by it that I get too overwhelmed to even ask someone to take it away! And this is after two years of gradually reducing how much we own.

It's going to be wonderful to move to our new place with less stuff - and because it's quite small with limited storage we'll need to keep it that way!

eminemmerdale · 17/02/2013 21:35

It does make you feel more in control doesn't it? i was in a terrible state last week, hence joing this thread and actually getting on with stuff - so easy to just procrastinate and moan Grin Getting dh on board was a hige achievement too!

MrsPennyapple · 17/02/2013 22:07

Becstar I agree, get a charity to come and take it away. Freecycle is good for bits here and there but you do sometimes get people messing you about, not turning up to collect things etc.

However, I did once have a charity come round to collect some stuff when I was moving cities - they asked me to make sure all the crockery was packed safely so it wouldn't smash in transit, and then the guys who came refused to take it, as it was all wrapped in newspaper and they couldn't check if it was in good condition, and wouldn't wait for me to unwrap it!

Prior to that same house move I had a few bits of furniture to get rid of and I put them on the pavement outside my house with a note that said "free - please take what you want". I thought none of it would go, and I'd have to bring it back in later, but everything got taken. (No way would I have left it all there!)

No more actual decluttering has happened yet, but DP spoke to his mum about some of the pictures that are lying under beds gathering dust, she's happy for us to get rid of them in whatever way we see fit, so now we just need to get them valued and see if we might be able to get any cash for them. This is a real result, it drives me mad that these things lurk around taking up space.

Sokmonsta · 18/02/2013 08:20

mommi - sorry for taking a while. So many times I have composed this message and ended up rambling. I'm not sure that it does really work for us but I've been having a massive cull on junk lately.

To surmise our living space. Front door onto hall. Galley kitchen, lounge and downstairs toilet.

Small bedroom (boxroom size in large houses), family bathroom and master bedroom.

Master bedroom has wall to wall fitted wardrobe. Dc's room has built in cupboard but not full height as its over the stairs.

Storage-wise. I introduced dh to ikea! We have a tall, wide and tall, narrow billy bookshelf plus short wide one with cupboard doors on along one wall in the lounge. We have a second billy cupboard on another wall. They are very good as we've been able to mix and match shelves around according to our needs. In the hall we have another cupboard at the bottom of the stairs.

Tv is on a corner unit, pushed back as far as it can go. If we could we would walk mount the tv and get rid of the unit, putting sky box etc in a cupboard with a magic eye. But unfortunately our walls are just plasterboard and wouldn't support the weight.

We have a square but extending table. So we can pull out the extension for us all to sit at the table, but make it square again for the kids to do activities at.

We recently got rid of our old coffee table. Instead we have two ikea hol box tables. We can fit all the kids board games in one and dh's paperwork in the other.

Kids room has a bunk bed and one cot! The twins share at present.

What we are going to do is swap bedrooms, so we have the smaller one. We don't do anything other than sleep and watch tv in there so it makes sense to give the children more room for them and their toys.

They have an ektorp unit with the fabric boxes as a clothes/nappy storage. In their cupboard is a double hanging rail which is height adjustable so we can see and easily reach all the hanging clothes. They have one wide, tall bookshelf which is crammed with books and stuff! Really need to prune it.

Our wardrobe has all our clothes and we have one chest of drawers for small stuff. We got the drawer dividers which have been very beneficial at keeping me organised in there.

We have a bedside two drawer unit each.

Upstairs bathroom has a lovely big cabinet - 7 shelves! It is big. But we can get everything we need in it.

Downstairs toilet houses the dirty laundry basket, ironing board, mop & bucket. Iron lives in the under sink cupboard along with spare toilet rolls. We also have a travel cot in there. We are lucky that its a reasonable size but everything is packed in tight iyswim.

Kitchen has been our toughest space. It's big enough for one to cook, but if the other is washing up at the same time you end up tripping over each other!

We've pruned the kitchen to only stuff we need. If it can't go in a cupboard or drawer, I don't want it. We have three exceptions, being the bread bin, food processor and tassimo. If the latter two were in a cupboard they wouldn't get used so I kept them out.

We fitted an extra set of shelves behind our kitchen door and had a shelf put in under the sink as it didn't have one plus shelves in our tall broom cupboard. It was wasted space having one broom and a dustpan & brush in it. Now I have extra food space.

Our under stairs space is open. We did consider making it into a cupboard but its more flexible as it is. It currently houses our downstairs cleaner (have one upstairs in the airing cupboard), a wine rack and the butchers block trolley which used to live in the kitchen. We had to buy a tumble dryer. Bottles drinks are stored in/on that along with the too big for cupboard cereal packets.

Last winter we finally had enough money to buy a shed. It has been a godsend. All the tools and things which were previously housed in various hidey holes around the house and under the stairs have gone out there. Also half the wine!

The children have two toy boxes downstairs. I rotate stuff between there and the loft. Before Christmas an awful lot of stuff got put up there to be sorted out at a later date! With the ages of dc I'm torn between keeping things I know the younger two will eventually use and getting rid to make space. I'm finding a ruthless
Streak I didn't know I had and I think that is helping make our current space work.

I think that's it! But I'm sure ill have forgotten something, or you will be reading this thinking what on earth is she on about. I'm relatively new to this decluttering lark. The dts are 10 months old and we started sinking even more rapidly when they were born.

LemonBreeland · 18/02/2013 08:25

Well I made £127 last week, and am off to post two Ebay packages this morning. I also found someone wanting Fireman Sam toys on fb before I've had a chance to list them. It took a while to convince ds2 but he is ready to give them up now. Not sure how much to ask for as there is rather a lot.

DH must be learning by watching, as he went through his wardrobe last night and it is now a lot leaner.

I also have Grandparents who buy a lot for my dc but not as bad as some here. MIL picks stuff up a lot but keeps it at her house so that is okay. DM is getting better at not buying between birthdays etc.

Today I have time to tackle something but not sure where I'll do. I may continue in the boys room after I have sorted out the toys to sell.

Paintyourbox · 18/02/2013 09:39

Some success here today!

Have a lovely lady coming to collect the side-table tonight after I posted it on Freecycle yesterday.

Listed some more stuff e.g sets of wine glasses, assorted kitchen stuff and some picture frames so will hopefully get some takers for those.

Going to list some more clothes on eBay and have another bag full to go to charity.

Has anyone had experience of gettin rid of old laptops? We have two that we have kept "just in case" bit with the rise of Internet phones we don't really need them. Is it best to eBay them? Or how about the cash for computers sites?!

We traded in a heap of books on amazon.co.uk in exchange for a gift card- DD is nearly too big for her car seat so we will use the voucher towards a new one. Not very minimalist as such but it's a safety issue!

Paintyourbox · 18/02/2013 09:40

Ahem getting

eminemmerdale · 18/02/2013 10:44

We have about three really old laptops to get rid of - they are beyond help I think, but it feels wrong chucking them..

educatingarti · 18/02/2013 10:51

Morning everyone
I've woken with a bit of a headache this morning. Sadly not much more decluttering done yesterday but I have nearly finished shredding the file of old car paperwork.

I need to get back to work today so I'm planning on doing an hour or so now, then stopping and doing a quick household "round -up" of jobs including taking out all the rubbish and recycling which has, of course, bred like mad over the last couple of days. I will feel better I know when all of that is out of the house!

I'm impressed with all of you managing with multiple children in such small places. I'm on my own in a 3 (double) bedroom flat ! No separate dining room though and the kitchen isn't enormous.

I use the smallest double bedroom as my own bedroom - it is big enough for a double bed plus a wardrobe and chest of drawers. I also have 2 bedside tables and the laundry basket in there. I did have a small wicker chair in there too, but I never sat on it and it just used to become a dumping ground for clothes. I sent that to a charity shop a week or so back. I have an old wooden ladder ( bought for about 30 quid from ebay) that I use to hang clothes over the rungs and on hangers in between wears. I don't like to put worn-but-not dirty enough-to wash-yet clothes back in wardrobes and drawers.

My largest "bedroom" is my workroom. I decided to use the largest room for this as this is where I spend most of my time. I work as a tutor so I use this room for storing my many and multiple teaching aids/books etc and have probably about 6m of desk space, arranged so that I can work but I also have space for teaching students that come to me for lessons. Along one wall are fitted wardrobes that I have had shelved. They house a lot of my teaching stuff like maths and literacy games, stationery and personal paperwork and wrapping paper as well as camping stuff and Christmas decs on the top shelves and things like the ironing board, vacuum, steam mop and cleaning stuff. Despite ( or perhaps because) I have all the storage space, I have lots of clutter in this room. I do need to sort it all through.

I find it hard to get rid of teaching stuff as I never know what age and stage my next students are going to be, so just because I haven't used something for 2 years, doesn't mean I won't use it a lot next year!

My living room is kept fairly tidy most of the time as it is where parents can wait if they want to while their children are having a lesson. About 2 thirds of it is seating focused round a (fake) log burning stove and fireplace and one third has a folding table that can be extended out to seat 4.

My third bedroom is my multipurpose junk room. It has a sofa bed in that folds out to a decent sized double bed for guests, plus a lot of craft stuff in cupboards and on my craft desk and all over the floor and... and is where I dry washing on an airer when the weather is too bad to put it outside. It also hasa mini trampoline and gym ball for when I --don't- do exercise! It does tidy up really nicely by putting everything in cupboards when I have guests but really does need a good sort out!

Listing all of this is making me feel a bit Blush especially as I still haven't mentioned the really enormous coat cupboard ( I keep bathrooms supplies in there too as the bathroom is really small) and the blanket box and shelving unit in the hall.

OK - must actually do some work! Thanks for reading my random descriptions!

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sommewhereelse · 18/02/2013 11:09

You're all progressing really well. I have had a weekend away so all I've managed to do is read a book which I've been meaning to read for 10 years. It's not a keeper so that can go to the charity shop.

I've resolved not to buy or borrow any new books until I've read or got rid all the ones I've been meaning to read for years. So I won't be buying any more books this year.

MinimalistMommi · 18/02/2013 12:14

Sokmonsta thank you so much for writing a reply, I think I've mentioned on here before that I'm super interested in families living in small spaces and how they make it work.

I think it is a great idea about swapping rooms with your little ones, we considered it here but we can't fit our kingsize bed in the second room as it doesn't fit in the alcove in there. Totally agree, it makes sense for children to have biggest room.

Do you rent the property or do you own it? Do you see yourself moving to something bigger? I always get asked if i see this cottage as a stepping stone property because of the size, but we don't. We wanted a manageble mortgage on one income. We wanted to be able to still afford to do stuff with the children in the future after paying the mortgage each month. After saving like crazy, we have bought this little place so we see our two daughters long term sharing, even when they're teens which I know isn't a particularly popular idea on mumsnet (own space, privacy etc)

I'm still pruning stuff to fit into this house comfortably, had a very productive three hours this morning of hard work Grin I'm just going to keep at it. I'm amazed really because so much went before we moved but there is still stuff we don't use.

We only have a tiny low cupboard under the stairs which currently house the DC's scooters but I think I will work on that storage space to fit more.

We have a built in cupboard in the dining room which currently house the children's toys. In their room they just have beds and books.

We have a large airing cupboard in the bathroom which is so useful for towels etc

About saving to toys? That is such a tough one. If lots of pressies get given to your DC's at Xmas time etc i would say don't bother keeping them now as it will just get all too much for you again. Saying that just made me realise how wasteful our society is

LemonBreeland · 18/02/2013 12:15

Well my ebay parcels are gone and I've found most of the fireman sam stuff, will get the dses to find the rest when they come home from school.

Now that so mamy unused toys are gone I am going to take the two big drawers from under the boys beds to the dump. They just fill up with stuff that is never used. Just waiting for my car to come back from the valeter down the road.

I am not going to have much time for more decluttering this week as I'm working extra hours and baking for a friends charity bake sale on Friday.

mm your point earlier about what your dc do in their free time was interesting. My boys do play with their toys but only a few select things, that is why I've asked them to part with quite a lot. I still need to be more ruthless but it is hard for them to see lots go at once. We will be decorating their room later this year and that will be a good opportunity to only return to their room the things they really use.

MinimalistMommi · 18/02/2013 12:23

Oh, and I wanted to say we're investing in a Miele washer dryer.
www.johnlewis.com/miele-wt2780-washer-dryer-5kg-wash-3kg-dry-load-a-energy-rating-1600rpm-spin-white/p230697244

Currently we have separate appliances but we don't have the space, our tumble dryer is sat in our dining room right now Hmm which I don't want to be a long term solution. It will take us ages to save but I think it will be worth it as:
A) They're meant to be amazing machines.
B) They're meant to have quite a long life span (Fingers crossed)

We're are also saving for this Dyson City Hoover:
www.amazon.co.uk/Dyson-Ultra-lightweigh-Cylinder-Vacuum-Cleaner/dp/B003479PM0

As its amazingly small. Our regular Dyson is currently sitting on our living room floor as there is no where else to put it and everyone keeps tripping over it.
We hope to take the appliances we don't need to a second hand shop near us that sells recondition stuff, even if we get a minimal amount for them, it's better then nothing and at least they will get re-used.

Paintyourbox · 18/02/2013 12:26

That's 4 more items listed on eBay!

Probably not going to get much more done today as DD has a horrible cold and I need to sort some stuff for work (doing extra hours this week so it's going to be busy!)

MinimalistMommi · 18/02/2013 12:31

Lemon that's why I've decided to be super ruthless, by watching my DC carefully I can see exactly what they do and do not use. My almost five year old girl does a lot of baby doll play, so of course her baby dolls stay. As she's only just started decoding words, she doesn't get as absorbed in books like her older sister Grin She's very keen on drawing and colouring. And snipping up paper. The play doh comes out about once a week too.

Interestingly, we bought an absolutely beautiful play kitchen about four years ago and while the play kitchen stuff got used (pots,pans,food) the actual cooker itself turned into a bit of an ornament and hardly was used. I'm thinking of selling it. It's currently on our landing.

Goodness my house sounds a mess! Tumble dryers standing in dining rooms etc...it looks better than in sounds Grin

I will get there in the end. Baby steps!

MinimalistMommi · 18/02/2013 12:32

edu I loved reading about your space!
Your job sounds great by the way!