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The Fledglings' nests will be clean in 2013!

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superfluouscurves · 31/12/2012 21:44

(With many thanks to Jdub for title inspiration!!)

If your house is a mess and you are strugging with C.H.A.O.S. (can't have anyone over syndrome) and S.T.U.F.F. (something that undermines family fun) then this is the thread where we (loosely) follow the step-by-step Flylady housekeeping system (in our own, unique, relaxed style) with lots of chat, support and wine along the way.

This little-and-often system is designed so that you can follow a series of steps and routines each day (which gradually become second nature) in weekly designated zones of the house; defining and minimising housework - which in theory should leave you with more time to do other, more interesting things instead!

At the same time it is intended to reduce that panicky "rabbit in headlights" feeling when you are overwhelmed and everything needs doing all at once. No problem if you miss a day or two; just jump right back in and it will all come around next month again anyway!

We advise not signing up to receive the Flylady e-mails as you will be inundated (although some Fledglings find the compilation e-mails helpful)! All the information you need will be linked here on a daily basis.

From the first of the month, we will be following Flylady's steps and routines using a three-pronged approach (dependent on the stage everyone is at):

  • start or repeat baby steps
  • repeat baby steps + do 15 mins a day decluttering in the current zone
  • reinforce babysteps and do daily missions if you have finished decluttering.

[And if you are really enthusiastic and have finished decluttering - you can go on to detailed deep cleaning in each zone.]

More info here on getting started and Flying lessons. Here's the launch pad for more experienced fledglings. Don't be put off by the barf-tastic language of the site - the underlying system is sound (and you may discover a few of our subversions of the vocabulary along the way).

Huge thanks to Lauren for being our incredibly reliable and organised shining star in the East and leading us throughout the very busy month of December!!

Happy New Year Fledglings!!

All welcome!!

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BitchyDragons · 09/01/2013 20:46

The people are really annoying me still. Bag is made but trying to sew ds' name on the front. Run out of thread. Arses. Giving up and going to bed.

LillethTheCat · 09/01/2013 20:50

Evening everyone.

tada

  • Wash up 3X
  • turn on washing machine
  • apply vanish to some clothes
  • put out hotspot (I actually did this for the first time today, it was only yesterday I decided exactly where my hotspots were and I have 3)
  • 2nd load of washing
  • drying
  • take laundry upstairs
  • Shine Sink
  • lay out clothes for tomorrow
  • fill machine for tomorrow
  • 5 min room rescue (I dont have a particular room, but have got areas so 5 mins here and there will be the same thing - I hope)
  • coursework

Ive done everything today.

Tomorrows list

  • Turn on Washing Machine
  • Dry laundry
  • Put Laundry away
  • Wash Up 2X
  • Shine Sink
  • Hotspot 2X
  • 5 Min room rescue
  • Go to evening course
  • lay out clothes for Friday

Sorry your DH is not a very good driving instructer Silvery Hopefully you will soon pass your test and wont need him next to you for much longer. Is it because he is used to driving everywhere and finding it hard for someone else to do it?

hope you get your laptop fixed Blue

Im worried about fitting flying in around other things, but where there's a will there's a way I suppose. 5 mins cleaning is better than none.

Hope everyone is having a good evening. Speak to you all tomorrow.

LillethTheCat · 09/01/2013 20:51

crossed posts. Night Bitchy hope tomorrow is less stressful for you

BitchyDragons · 09/01/2013 21:00

Stressful? hahaha this is positively calm for around here. Can safely say shared households aren't the best of ideas. Hmm Also I think i need to live on my own. Am far too grumpy for other people in my space and messing up my systems!

Uniform all laid out. Thanks for reminding me of that fledglings!

ToffeeWhirl · 09/01/2013 21:30

Final bit of my ta da list for today - and all thanks to use of the timer as I didn't feel like doing anything:

Made phone calls re holiday
Emails
Cut up frozen cookie dough and baked cookies
DS1, DS2 and I ate all the cookies in one sitting Blush
Unloaded d/w again
Reloaded d/w again
Texted friend re pick up tomorrow
Went to corner shop three times
Washed up by hand
Wiped and decluttered kitchen surfaces
Put out kitchen hotspot
Put out dining-room-table hotspot
Made dinner
Washing up again
Dried up and put away
Shined sink!
Wiped and tidied kitchen surfaces again
Put washing into tumbledryer
Changed sheets on DS2's bed
Bedtime routines for the boys

Am now going to flop on the sofa with DH and watch the first episode of 'Borgen', which we have been trying to watch since Monday.

Night all.

swanthingafteranother · 09/01/2013 21:33

silvery my Dh can't drive, well at least he CAN (has licence) but hasn't driven for 20 years due to fear issues, so his back seat driving hasn't much moral force Grin Still, it would be lovely if he could drive Hmm all those trips to the tip... And yet he still manages to criticize my driving, you know, speed, map reading, that sort of thing Hmm
I think the theory on the Flying is that by the time your routines are habits, and the house thoroughly decluttered there isn't that much housework to DO! And of course your children are meant to be trained by then Wink

A familiar scene of chaos here. DH has collasped after a very successful day's business. Children are not quite in bed or asleep. House festooned with drying laundry and old boxes on their way in various directions.

Finally some of Xmas decs are heading loftwards Blush And the stuff from car is nearly sorted. My car is a sort of surrogate shed Hmm

better go..

superfluouscurves · 09/01/2013 22:13

Evening lovely fledglings. Hope you have all had a reasonably productive day NOT procrastinating. Mine was spent tackling 8 hr fall out from office shenanigens yesterday + school run + playdate run + ballet run, so yet again, no Flying done (apart from basic routines and usual load of laundry that is).

And diet went out the window when they ordered in a takeaway for lunch. (Am finding it hard in January too Engels (Think there was a good reason why monks used to fast during Lent when the days are getting longer and spring is at least within sniffing distance! Much harder at this time of year.) Anyway, that's yet another excuse from me! Hopeless!!

At least I have all of tomorrow to tackle the house. Sorry - not setting a very good Flying (or Body Clutter) example atm am I? Hope to get a grip soon however ...

[Sad] news too as my cousin died today (had been suffering from cancer a long time) - really feel for his immediate family.

How did you all get on?

Bitchy Congrats on completion of indestructible pe bag and humungous list. I made one for dd a year or so ago and now the other girls in her class have asked them to make one for each of them too!! Not sure what to do tbh!!

Sounds like you deserved that wine Cuddledup after ploughing through that list. Good luck going back to the coal face tomorrow! You've been through a lot recently so take it steady x

Feetheart Mercury Goth Doublemum Wewereherefirst and Lilleth you have all done really well with your lists today too! (You are all putting me to shame!!) Really good going!

Lilleth that is the room rescue theory I am applying to our boudoir atm! Hopefully at the end of Jan, I will be able to walk across the floor in a straight line!! Flylady advises doing Fling Boogies and room rescues in one zone or room at a time so that your efforts are not dissipated all over the house and so that you make sustainable, visible, progress.

doublemum and Silvery and Toffee I think it is a struggle to fit it all in and to be blunt, although it's probably bordering on sacrilege to say it on this thread, I don't think Flying, or any other housework system for that matter, offers a magic solution (although system does definitely help with efficiency and one's attitude to chores!).

In the end I think it all comes down to how much energy and determination one has at the end of the day (which is v. bad news for me I can tell you Blush Grin!) Housework never ends and it can be hard work and pretty tedious to boot and that's the truth ...so don't be too hard on yourselves Smile!!

In my book, as long as your kitchen and bathroom are clean, there's good food on the tableand there are clean clothes to wear in the morning and you can find them, then you are doing well!!

The Flylady theory is that, the longer you follow the steps and routines, the more your house will become decluttered and clean, and the less time it will all take. It's bound to be harder at the beginning.

And I think adapting the system to suit yourselves is important too (ie before I started art study, I deliberately planned NOT to Fly on Tues and to devote it to creative stuff instead -which nearly worked!!) But the downside of that is one has to be realistic and accept if you add one thing in, another thing has to go (it took me ages to accept that!!)

But the key, as ever, is short sharp bursts, do the minimum necessary, and don't try and do anything perfectly, just "good enough"!!

Silvery sympathies with the driving - dh and I always have difficulties when share driving or cooking (he keeps pressing the imaginary brake peddle when I am at the wheel which doesn't half hack me off!!)

toffee you sound bored/restless atm. Could you book yourself in for a course/or do something just for yourself - something creative or something to feed the brain ....even if just one hour a week??????? What's good for mother and all that ...

Doublemum your home made dishes sound delicious

[Plumps up Engel's pillows and adds extra comforter to foot of bed]

Bum about the computer Blue Hope it can be salvaged.

Swan a heroic effort from you today and bet house doesn't look worse. One thing I've really learnt from this system is that even 5 mins really helps and you've done loads more than that today (ie 3 bags of rubbish!). Top marks for ploughing on through!! And hope your fainting ds feels ok - we are going through that with dd atm and one is permanently on tenterhooks.

Snowgirl that's what my cleaner does toO ... the home bleugh on the ground floor (but on a Friday) plus deep cleans the bathroom. At least then I know the basics are done (well, when I don't cancel her because the house is too cluttered to clean that is Blush!!)

Hope midwife appt went well MrsPennyapple and that you are feeling OK

Waves back to Goth of Glasgow! Could do with some sunshine here ...

Whatkatydid Whoknows and Bitchy sorry for troubling you over babysteps doc and thanks very much for your efforts to find it. Bitchy was right - it has indeed disappeared in website reorganisation - unless I imagined it all along (it wasn't an app was it????). Have found them listed together here though on site map. Thanks again though!

Posting this before I lose it ... back in a mo with part II ..and links

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BlueEyeshadow · 09/01/2013 22:15

Evening all. No flying done today, and didn't get to Zumba either for one reason and another.

Tomorrow's to do list now starts:
PC to repair shop. Sigh. I accidentally switched it off without shutting down properly and it's completely died. :(
Also loads of washing and shopping

Toffee - you've reminded me that we have Borgen to catch up on too.

Sympathies re people and back seat driving.

BlueEyeshadow · 09/01/2013 22:17

X-post with SC - waves!

justcrazy · 09/01/2013 22:21

Hi everyone,

Thank you toffeeWhirl and Silverymoon will have a look at the flylady kids challenge, sounds interesting. On the kids chore chart front all is going well and it's really helping me.

Madwomenonthebrink an adoption anniversary sounds wonderful what a good idea.

Ta da
Have had a very busy and emotionally draining day at work so my first two are
Survived the day
Had a good cry about the day

Cooked dinner
Loaded dishwasher
Swish and swipe kitchen and bathrooms
Quick Hoover downstairs
Filled in forms for DS school
Looked up Holliday cottages :-)

Night

BitchyDragons · 09/01/2013 22:24

You didn't imagine it sc i have printed copy somewhere but when she reorganised the website she tweaked the babysteps and they become different so i think that that is why it disappeared.

superfluouscurves · 09/01/2013 22:36

Part II ...

A very warm welcome to Justcrazy glad the family are cooperating!!

Great to have you back Feetheart! Smile

Whoknows (will be re-joining you on MFP shortly!)

Ellie and Bitchy I'm with you re: the Shred. I think my Shredding days are well and truly over (except where it relates to cabbage that is).

Thanks for the offer though Castle - much appreciated - but ... and I'm so embarrassed to admit this ... I've opted for Rosemary Conley Salsa-cise instead Blush Blush Blush I know ... I know ..

Madwoman ditto what Swan said - am in awe of your energy levels!!!

Snowgirl see my reply in previous post to Silvery Toffee et al about fitting stuff in. Don't attempt detailed cleaning now! That's for when your house is totally decluttered and all baby-steps/routines etc running smoothly/consistently/like second nature etc. Then there will be time ...haven't reached that point up to now though must admit

Inadvertent Flying counts just as much as the intentional kind Pushme!!! Smile

Well done to Mercury and all the rest of you who are Shredding, attending Weightwatchers, running, swimming, doing Pilates, etc etc etc?. Really impressive with everything else you have on!! I'm sure your collective example will spur me on!!

As ever, huge waves to concise, organised Lauren, Blue, Bakerofcakes Gossip and everyone else!!!!

Sorry, posting steps very late now... will do links before round-ups in future!!

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wewereherefirst · 09/01/2013 22:37

Toffee I only manage to do bits when DH is home, when he's at work I become a frazzled wreck in a chaotic home Grin. How do you find Home Ed? It's something I've always been interested in.

Sc sorry to hear about your cousin.

Well I only completed my flipping list. Everything! I am slightly shocked at a fully crossed out list and I feel happy, but the house doesn't look any better for it. Doh.

Tomorrows to do:

Get up
Get DS1 to school before the doors open
Strip DC's beds,
Remake beds
Washing
Dry washing
Vac downstairs
Vac bedrooms
Empty bins
Swish and swipe
15mins in loft

I hope to at least achieve the vacuuming as DS2 loves it when I vacuum, he squeals with delight and then helps me! Lol

superfluouscurves · 09/01/2013 22:38

Cuddledup I'm so sorry - I meant to say in first bit of round-up - so good to hear that that your father's funeral went well, was a comfort, and a true celebration of his life. Thinking of you x

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superfluouscurves · 09/01/2013 22:46

Apologies - will try and post steps a bit earlier tomorrow!!

Baby-step no. 10 for Thurs 10th Jan is here! A good one - learning about the power of 15 mins!

We are continuing in Zone 2 (the kitchen) until the end of the week: here

Try and declutter for 15 mins in the current zone per day.

If your kitchen is already decluttered, you can progress to here detailed cleaning

Tomorrow's mission is scrubbing your counter tops

Thursday is errand day

The habit for January is keep shining that sink!

And if I've missed anything or you want a quick reference to tomorrow's tasks, have a look at tomorrow's flight plan which should update daily.

Have a good day tomorrow everyone!
*

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superfluouscurves · 09/01/2013 22:57

x posts

"Yay!" at Wewereherefirst's completed list!! Smile It may not look better but bet everything functions more efficiently tomorrow!!

Wise words Lilleth exactly- 5 mins is definitely better than none!!

Wow Toffee that' some list - esp. well done with both boys at home!!

JustCrazy you did well to get all that done after such a tough day! Hope tomorrow is less onerous!

Glad I'm not going completely mad Bitchy - I've, er, filed it, [coughs harder] somewhere too Wink!!

Exchanges extra feathery wing flaps with Swan, Blue and anyone else I've inadvertently missed out!!

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superfluouscurves · 09/01/2013 22:58

You are all doing brilliantly!! G'night!!

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Jamillalliamilli · 09/01/2013 23:13

SC very sorry to hear about your cousin.

Afraid ?m retirering to the naughty corner for now. Tried to jump my wheelchair up the kerb to go to the P/O, and completely blew it. I?ve hurled myself full force onto my back, crushed my hands and brained myself senseless on the road and am a bruised cracking mess, so don't know what I'll be doing but it will require minimal movement and possibly alcohol.

BitchyDragons · 09/01/2013 23:16
WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 09/01/2013 23:24
justcrazy · 09/01/2013 23:39

Ouch justgettingonwithit hope your not to bruised and sore in the morning.

madwomanintheattic · 10/01/2013 05:58

Ouch, just, take it easy x
And sc, so sorry about your cousin. There just seems to be so much sadness around at the moment. Sad

You ladies would be very proud of me today (and lol at being envious of my energy levels, I was a screeching harridan this morning! Blush.) I was asked at our meeting tonight if I would take over as the next district commissioner in the summer, and I said NO!!!! Grin. Get me! I said NO!!! First time ever.

I did say I would take my turn at some point in the future (old habits die hard) but that it would more realistically be in three years time. I am very proud of myself.

On the flying front, my dishwasher had a bit of an episode, so this morning I had to empty it, clean all the bloody water squirts bits (technical term) out and reload the same stuff. There wasn't enough room for the breakfast stuff, so I had to leave it all out on the side when I left for work, as I didn't have enough time to wash up. It was also snowing (and had dumped overnight) so I was in a flap about that, and dd2 was on a major go-slow. So I have felt behind all day. My bedroom is still fantabulous though, so it is (okay, okay, fairy, you win) quite nice to have that oasis.

This weekend I am going to get rid of all of the plastic crockery from the kitchen. Grin My kids are way too old to be using plastic, and my cupboards will benefit no end. I have also planned a trip into the city on Sunday to meet up with some friends from out of town for brunch at the top of the Calgary Tower. I am considering that renewing my spirit. Grin

SilveryMoon · 10/01/2013 07:55

I've just done half hour of ironing! Bbl to catch up

laurenamium · 10/01/2013 08:17

Good morning everyone!

just that sounds painful! Take it easy Sad

Well done on saying no madwoman!

List dump time!

To do:
This weeks missions
Routines
Walk dogs
School run *2
Doctors app
Post parcel
Shop for essentials
Pay bill
Put my laundry away
Clean bathroom!

BBL!

MrsPennyapple · 10/01/2013 09:46

Hi everyone!

SC sorry to hear about your cousin. Hope you and the rest of the family are ok, what a sad time :(

Midwife appt went very well, she knew about the mc in June and even managed to squeeze me in for a very quick scan! Twas on the portable machine so not terribly clear, but enough to see a bean and a heartbeat, which was all I needed really, and I'm feeling so much happier.

This thread moves so fast so apologies for not doing other personals. TBH I haven't even been looking at the links, nor following baby steps - although I have been doing bits and pieces to keep on top of the housework. Being part of the thread does motivate me to get things done, even if not what FLYlady says I should be doing. One of these days I'll get myself organised enough to follow it properly. Until then:

Done:
Got up, dressed in scruffs though, not suitable to go outdoors where civilized people will see me.
Dishwasher emptied.
Coffee consumed.

To do:
Shopping
Meal planning
Van lounge
Clean out microwave
Clean out toaster
Prep veg for dinner
Bank bags of change
Meet SIL for coffee

Laughably unlikely but on my list anyway:
Write out thank you cards
Make mince pies (I know, but I was given some homemade mincemeat and didn't get round to it before Christmas, and have only had ONE mince pie this Christmas, so feel justified.)