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has anyone else had problems with a Samsung american fridge freezer?

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ThatVikRinA22 · 08/05/2012 22:30

its 4 years old.

worked for 4 years no problem, then in december last year it started to make a horrendous noise and the fridge temp went up
it got repaired. apparently
it lasted 3 months before it did it again
it got repaired
it lasted a few weeks
it got repaired
it lasted a week
it took out 5 years warranty from Comet but its about to come to an end. The repairs only seem to be temporary.
Has anyone else had any problems?
it cost just short of £1000 so im not impressed.

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ThatVikRinA22 · 09/05/2012 20:25

id not have been so bothered if it had lasted 9 1/2 years tbh, but for the price i would have expected more than the 4 (almost 5) this has lasted.

mine is the same model as featured on watchdog. i cant quite understand how when they publicly announced on that programme that they would honour repairs they can try and wriggle out of this one.

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DaisySteiner · 09/05/2012 21:27

You need a new thermostat. If this hasn't been done then the ice will just keep building up.

ThatVikRinA22 · 09/05/2012 21:30

is that the 'fix' for this design fault Daisy?

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ThatVikRinA22 · 10/05/2012 20:42

well, i got a call from the company that sends their engineers, apparently there is a fix and they are coming to fit a modification kit on Tuesday.

alot bloody quicker and better than Comet i have to say, but i will reserve judgement until i find out if it works!

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Poodlehorse · 04/07/2012 15:05

The moneysaving expert thread on these has an in depth look at all of my (and other 's) woes. Trick is to get the engineer to say it is goosed, they may be Samsung engineers but they aren't really. Much BS spouted but insist and they usually do, it took 3 real callouts I think but there was one unofficial one. Wegot a replacement which works but isn't quite as "nice" inside. It is still working but I see that as borrowed time to be honest.

Xhell · 23/04/2013 21:33

We had the dreaded noisy fan, temperature too warm, ice build-up problem on the fridge section of a Samsung American style side by side fridge/freezer. It is a RSH1NHSW model purchased in Ireland in September 2009 costing ?700. Although I was aware of and had previous experience of poor performance of Samsung equipment, we purchased this unit because the dimensions fitted (just) the available space, the colour (white) matched our other kitchen equipment and lack of an ice dispenser was also what we wanted. Had there been another make with this specification, we would have purchased this instead.

Eighteen months later and we loose the food contents of the fridge due to a warm temperature and ice build-up. So we execute a full manual defrost and all is good for a few months and then the noisy fan and we loose the food contents again. So then we get into a routine of planned manual defrosts every quarter but by late 2012 even this does not restore the cooling performance. It was time to do some research and it became apparent very quickly that this is a design issue with multiple models of Samsung fridges that has gone on for many years, so much so that there are various third parties offering DIY repair kits. There have been lawsuits and massive product recalls with some units allegedly exploding.

The Samsung website which is endlessly patronising was no help to me because it insisted that I submit the serial number of the unit. The serial number is not on any of the enclosed documentation and can only be found apparently on the lower left hand side of the unit. In my case, I could only access this be de-constructing some of the built-in section of the kitchen and I was going to incur additional cost to do this and make it good afterwards.

So I called Samsung. This was fun (not). It took three attempts and many hours to get to talk to someone. They tried every trick in the book to avoid one to one contact ? well you would I suppose if you have sold hundreds of thousands of faulty units to now irate customers around the globe. Well again, the serial number was asked for and I explained my difficulty in getting it as above but I also explained that I had documented proof of purchase. This cut no ice (pardon the pun) with them and I was basically told ? no serial number, get lost. I asked what was the probability that they would give me a direct replacement so I could assess if it was worth kitchen de-construction to get the stupid serial number, again I was dismissed with no answer.

I reconsidered my options. Getting a new unit from another maker would cost me ?1000 or so when I add in the required kitchen modifications. Appliance DIY Repairs in the UK (www.appliancediyrepairs.co.uk/) offer a whole range of Samsung repair kits and for my model the cost is £133. Delivery is free in the UK but is extra to Ireland so this is expensive but for me it was potentially my least worst option. I am pretty technical so fitting the repair kit was not going to be an issue. The really neat thing for me was that the repair kit could all be fitted within the fridge compartment without the need to access the back or sides so I did not have to move the unit and incur additional kitchen modification costs.

I found Andy at Appliance DIY Repairs extremely responsive and very helpful and dealing with him in contrast to Samsung was chalk and cheese. The repair kit includes an apparently improved evaporator cover with fan, evaporator heater with thermal fuse and a defrost sensor which (and this is critical) you install in a different location to the original. It comes with an excellent set of installation instructions. Anyone that is reasonably handy should be able to fit this kit but you need to set a full day aside for it. It can take quite a long time to get rid of the ice build up. I used two hair dryers blowing close to the evaporator cover (but not touching it as this will melt the plastic) to get the cover free and I had to pour boiling water on the drain hole at the bottom of the evaporator for hours to get this clear of ice. The unit has been working fine since repair but I cannot vouch for the long-term effectiveness of the repair kit until more time passes. Given that the repair kit is also made up of Samsung components, I have no confidence that it is a permanent fix.

I estimate this Samsung mess has cost us in the region of ?400 so far when I include the two batches of food wasted. In fact we have never had a good Samsung product. Our first Samsung product was a CII-5361AT/MIC television bought in November 1996. From day one had a faulty circuit board and the TV had to be hit slap here and there every other day to get a picture. The current crop of Samsung TV?s also seem to have loads of issues even on their high end units. Just Google Samsung TV clouding and banding to get an idea.

We managed to avoid Samsung products for a decade until our second Samsung product which was a DVD-VR320 VHS/DVD recorder bought specifically to archive VHS tapes to DVD in April 2006 as it was the only one available locally. The VHS deck was terrible and it made awful grainy DVD?s from the VHS tapes. The vendor (Currys) allowed to me trial their display unit but it was no better. Then I read the professional reviews and found that they had the same issue ? the terrible VHS deck was not just a fault on mine but a ?design feature? of all of them. It was utterly useless and sits gathering dust in the attic. We imported a Panasonic DMR EX95 VHS/DVD/HDD recorder to do the job. It is a class box and I now use it as a PVR for recording TV programmes from a set top box and archiving them to DVD.

So our third Samsung product, the poorly designed and very unreliable RSH1NHSW American style fridge/freezer will be our last.

WE WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER SAMSUNG PRODUCT EVER AGAIN. Angry

We are careful users and tend to operate stuff by the book. Thankfully over the years other appliances we have owned (brands like Bosch, Electrolux, Zanussi, LG, Belling, Mitsubishi, Philips, Panasonic, Sharp, Sony, Apple & Dell) have given us good service and value for money, only Samsung has not. What is amazing is how Samsung gets away with this. It seems to achieve it by being highly innovative in avoiding after-sales service and in avoiding it?s customers. It?s a shame it does not deploy the same level of innovation in the design and build of the products.

Buyer beware. Wink

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Kewcumber · 12/06/2013 21:36

WE WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER SAMSUNG PRODUCT EVER AGAIN.

Nope me neither - I buy cheap nasty Beko now, work a treat look fine and no problems with them. And if there are - pretty cheap to replace rather than repair

cat811 · 14/06/2013 23:49

For anyone still having freezer issues - we had all the above, over 18 months, with various engineer callouts, modification kits that didn't work etc, and in the end wrote a stroppy letter to the MD of Samsung complaining - within a week we got a replacement fridge/freezer, AND a full refund as the replacement wasn't exactly the same spec as the original (as they don't do it anymore due to all the issues....!)
So go straight to the top - it works!!

Penny06 · 15/07/2013 10:02

We have the Samsung RS21NCSV - same problem,mfridge not cooling build up of ice around fan etc. looked on Samsung website and there is a fault with these models. Called and was told that even though out of warranty as a good will gesture they will do a free inspection, repair inclusive of parts and labour - I pointed out that its not a good will gesture as it state on website that is what you will do regardless of warranty etc !! She still insisted she was doing it out of goodwill - let her have that one - dont care as long as they fix it ! She did add it will be chargeable if we have ever had engineer out for this problem before - which we haven't :)

Link for you to check your appliance www.samsung.com/uk/homevisit/?pid=uk_support_banner_homevisit_20130524

LeBoob · 15/07/2013 10:05

Yes us! We have to defrost it maybe every two weeks by taking off the back panel and leaving the hair dryer on it! We've tried turning it up turning it down, unplugging it from water mains, turning off ice. Nothing works, but it's a very common fault and we just get on with itSad

Penny06 · 15/07/2013 10:15

Contact samsung, they will do a free inspection and repair ifnitnis one of the listed models

kitsmummy · 15/07/2013 10:24

We had one, had to scrap it after 6 years, it was such a pile of crap. They're known for being useless.

DebsMat · 24/09/2013 09:38

We have a RSH1NHMH and surprise surprise we have the same problem. I have contacted Samsung and they say as it was manufactured 2010 and not one of the identified models having this problem they can send an engineer out but we have to pay for this service - I think I will be contacting Watchdog as they obviously have not rectified the problem they had with earlier models

juliaAtSirens · 01/12/2014 11:08

Just rang the Samsung helpline and after talking for 20 plus minutes they tried to fob me off and then I saw the link above. I checked my product and it has the fault, so I asked why they didn't tell me about it. That must have been the "Too difficult" box, as he hung up on me. Have registered for our visit to check

Bertb · 19/04/2015 11:43

You did well when ours was 2 years old they came and fixed a problem but 1 year on the fault is back as it's now not under warranty they do not want to know us , ice builds up due to a fault with the insulation and hits the fan ,have just been woken up again at 3.30 am ,another call out for an engineer tomorrow and another £100. Wish we had never seen the Samsung brand,after 2 months still waiting to hear a reply but the " help desk " do not ring you back.

janethelen · 30/05/2015 21:56

im in a battle at the minute with Samsung over them repairing my fridge freezer its a RS21 and its broke 3 times now, long n short of it, they say no they are not doing it, but my argument is, why should we pay for a design fault on a machine that Samsung put on the shelves!! Shouldnt matter how long youve had it, the point is, this machine is flawed

betsyyav60 · 04/06/2015 19:14

Ive had two samsung american fridge freezers in 5 years - they are rubbish!! I had water pouring out bottom and in door. Had an engineer look at it. Told me cheaper buying a new one - only 3 years old. And he told me never buy anything Samsung especially fridge freezer they are prone to problems.

betsyyav60 · 04/06/2015 19:17

I had RSA1RTMG absolute rubbish. Had several repairs under warranty now scrapped only 3 years old Second samsung which has been rubbish.

Jadu · 08/07/2015 15:06

I bought a Samsung American Fridge Freezer Model RSG5DURS1/XEU some 4.5 years ago. All was well until recently it started making a noise and 2 days later stopped working. Got a Samsung approved technician to look at it. Apparently, it was out of gas! However, according to him, the gas leak was between the walls of the appliance that had no way of being addressed. He re-gassed it and told us that the problem will recurr. Surely, a month later, the same problem. Wrote to Samsung to say that the source of this leak is unacceptable because it cannon be repaired and should not happen in an appliance 4.5 years old. It is out of warranty. Still following up with samsung. Will repoer further. Thus far, Samsung are not sounding very helpful but I will wait for the final response after the technician visits me again and gives me a report which I have to forward to Samsung.

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