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Dont buy from John Lewis

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cockneygirl · 12/11/2010 10:22

Here is my rant on my latest dealings with John Lewis.

Yesterday my neighbour had a new tv and aerial installed. He bought the package from John Lewis under the misguided and outdated belief that their service was superb and friendly. Beware! JL has expanded so much and trying so hard to join up with the rest of the retailers and to save costs now outsource everything outside their shops to contractors.

There were two fitters who came to install the aerial. And as we sat down to lunch there was a God-Almighty crack as they dropped a bracket onto the skylight cracking the glass and shattering shards of glass all over the kitchen. It was a complete nightmare. Tiny splinters of glass all over the kitchen and front room. The guys were unsympathetic. I had to insist on an apology which one of them mumbled reluctantly. And they never came to my front door to apologise. I was absolutely furious and trying to maintain my calm over the garden fence!

In short, and to cut out a very boring and tedious tale of an afternoon spent on the telephone to JL customer service, then the next company who then finally referred me to the actual engineering company who had fitted the aerial. The solution to clean up all the glass was to send the Chuckle brothers over to clean up the mess. You can imagine my answer to that one.

I had to throw out all the food on the counter. I had to get on my hands and knees to clean up all the glass. And my top tip is to wipe up the glass with a slice of bread first and then hoover. Also I had to keep my 3 year-old out of the area. Not easy and then I had to shake out all the sewing fabric I had laid out on the floor to work on. So I didnt get to sew but I had to deal with a broken skylight and as we ran out of time no glaziers wanted to come out to board up the problem.

Four months ago we moved into this house. We decided to be very extravagant and bought a very expensive fridge/wine cooler/freezer combo exclusive to John Lewis. But it was made by Electrolux and installed and delivered by Britannia the well-known oven and hob people. Not known for installing fridges especially expensive ones said the fitter with a wink when he came over. That turned into a nightmare that lasted 5 weeks. Again the details are too boring to relate and I am sure that you are losing the will to read any more. But in short - John Lewis is not what it was. If you think you are buying into the service you aren't you, really aren't.

We always buy big electrical items from JL. But my partner has just bought our latest 40" tv from Richer Sounds. We had an issue which was quickly resolved with no hassle. It didnt even occur to us to try JL.

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magichomes · 12/11/2010 16:46

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Northernlurker · 12/11/2010 16:54

Hang on - the op isn't saying JL should have avoided the accident. She's saying that when their contractor fucked up (and sorry but working at heights and dropping stuff is apalling - that sort of thing kills people!) she would have liked them to do more than they've done and this experience is on top of another one. She's saying they aren't going the extra yards to help their customers - and that's fair comment.

No idea why everyone is so keen to stick up for JL - are they giving away something free to mumsnetters atm? Hmm

Op - glad nobody was hurt and I hope you get the glass fixed asap. Is something over it now? You need to protect yourselves.

ShatnersBassoon · 12/11/2010 16:59

I bought a shirt there today. Perhaps I shouldn't put it too close to the windows Confused.

I'm going to keep shopping there anyway. I don't even have a skylight, so it's not a massive risk I'm taking.

notcitrus · 12/11/2010 17:00

I've had some bad service from JL, which took some sorting out - worst was getting my tenant's washing machine repaired under their guarantee, took ages, but they wouldn't let me get a plumber in and claim the cost back.

But on the whole they're very good, especially in the store, and way ahead of any other company I know of.

(strokes wad of JL vouchers from using JL credit card for everything)

LoveRedShoes · 13/11/2010 19:48

Have bought all of our stuff for new house from JL including large electricals etc.... And any issues that arose (dual it toaster scuffed, WM leaked etc) were remedied with top notch service. When I got home from a visit and one of the wineglasses was wobbly on the base, they couriered me a replacement SET free and by the next morning.
You had bad luck OP.

Wilts · 13/11/2010 19:54

I like John Lewis, we have a new one and we got given free bags of jelly beans when we went today Grin

Sorry you had a bad experience with them.

blueberryboybait · 13/11/2010 19:57

I love JL too - I recently bought a red kitchen aid from them and it arrived but was scuffed in the box - absolutely nothing to do with JL but original packaging. They offered to arrange a courier to collect it and replace it with a new one within 24 hours or the wold offer me £100 off the price. DH said take the money off, which we did. They then sent a voucher in the post for lunch at their restaurant as an apology. Their delivery guys alway carrything upstairs for me including a sofa bed.

The prople they outsource are responsible for the accident not JL - you can't blame them for someone else's bad service.

blueberryboybait · 13/11/2010 20:03

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Toughasoldboots · 13/11/2010 20:09

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Habbibu · 13/11/2010 20:09

What's the relevance of the fridge being made by electrolux?

Compote · 26/01/2011 23:21

Dear John Lewis
Today I bought a potty for my 3 month adorable little boy ... a bit early, I know, but all the kids in my family have been held by their mums over a potty from very early on and somehow established a daily routine etc ... a lot of us were out of nappies before 1 year of age!. And I just fancied buying it ...
So I brought that potty to the checkout and was greeted with a grunt and then got asked how old my child was and told I couldn't not use the potty, he is too young ...so I explained my story and the lady the till was checking her head and said "you learn new things everyday ..." in a very dismissive way! As I was still leaving the till she went onto telling her colleague about it (you can imagine her critical tone) and the other one was shaking her head too :-)
So I thought it was appropriate to loose my temper and say a word of two, that it is not very polite to be so disrespectful to a client (even if you think she is totally nuts) who is here to JUST pay for a potty. She could have waited until I was out of the way, no?
I am now laughing about it but she really got my blood boiling. I can take advise/questioning and debate when it is done with respect?
Anyway 14 years of good/excellent service at JL and Waitrose and after all it is only a potty we are talking about :)

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Carrotsandcelery · 27/01/2011 12:22

We bought our washing machine and tumble dryer from JL years ago. When the washing machine broke down (after years of heavy use) I couldn't find the insurance details. I phoned customer service and it was no problem at all - they had all my details, sent the repair engineer out, who was lovely and very kind to our new rescue dog who was a bit perturbed by his appearance, and it was fixed no problem. He also gave me some kindly advice on getting the best out of my machine.
I have never had a bad experience with JL and have been shopping with them all of my adult life.
Accidents happen and some people are rude - I don't think a whole company can be tarred because of one accident and less than helpful engineer.
I do appreciate that the incident would have been horrid though - don't rock many thousands of people's careers because of it though please.

GetOrfMoiLand · 27/01/2011 12:26

Grin This is obviously an unwritten MN rule - don't slag off John lewis.

I have never been in John Lewis funnily enough - frequent Waitrose but have never set foot in any of the mother ships (have never lived anywhere near one).

fruitstick · 27/01/2011 12:27

I love John Lewis. Often the service is shocking but they pay handsomly!

When DS1 was born I had a nightmare with our furniture delivery. Wardrobe was wrong twice, cot didn't arrive. Then arrived whilst I was in labour Hmm

There were many phonecalls to the nursery department and some hormonal weeping and they gave me the wardobe and cot for nothing.

I have just bought a desk from them. Some bits were missing. I have to wait a few weeks for the replacment drawer but they are giving me a partial refund.

I came on here to rant about IKEA who are not nearly so sympathetic.

Be careful what you wish for.

JarethTheGoblinKing · 27/01/2011 12:28
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mackereltaitai · 27/01/2011 12:33

It does sound like an awful experience OP. Unfortunately 'JLP' is printed through me like a stick of rock so it would take a lot of awful experiences before I didn't want to move in to my nearest JL. Clearly I'm not alone in this - I think the JLP is basically a religion replacement for British atheists.

SparkyToo · 28/01/2011 00:09

I too love John Lewis, I can't think of anywhere else that offers the same level of customer service.

PrettyCandles · 28/01/2011 07:41

If that had happened to me I would have been furious at the fitters, but I dont think it would even have occurred to me to chase JL. I would have been straight onto my household insurance and had them sort out the mess - that's what I pay them for!

JL keep my business.

FourArms · 28/01/2011 08:02

I had a problem with JL when my new washing machine arrived. The internal bolts were bent, and I was worried about the implications of this for the washing machine and I needed a new set of bolts for subsequent moves (we move a lot!).

They investigated, found out it was common and not a big problem and sent me a new set of bolts.

In addition to this when I ordered it DS2 was a few days old. Not a good time to have no washing machine. The delivery date was three weeks away as it was Mondays only in our area (near Lands End!), I'd ordered late on a Monday, the next one was full and then the following one was a bank holiday. I rang up and explained the situation... new baby, broken washing machine, pile of cloth nappies to wash... it was there the next day. :)

RobynLou · 28/01/2011 08:13

I heart JL, we had our wedding list with them, they sent some of the wrong things to us, so sent us the right things and told us just to keep the extra bits Smile

pinkcushion · 28/01/2011 10:20

PMSL at this thread. I shop at John Lewis a lot but they can be a bit crap at times, all retailers can be. Once or twice I have been furious with their awful custumer service - thankfully I haven't had to use it very often. I certainly wouldn't worship at the feet of any retailer, they want your money - to expect anything more of them is being naive.

I think given the tradesmen were sub-contractors for John Lewis that John Lewis were entirely responsible for fixing the mess resulting from the accident and I'm really surprised that quite a few of you seem completely blinkered to this fact. You can't argue that just because JLP is generally nice that it's OK for them to sub-contract and wipe their hand off the whole affair.

I guess love is blind!

laattr2013 · 19/04/2017 19:15

After 20 years our old cooker needed replacement, though it was still working. After much research we opted for a John Lewis brand cooker and buying from JL. The cooker conked within days. After much too-ing and fro-ing between my husband and customer services, a workman was finally sent out who advised getting a replacement. Again much too-ing and fro-ing with an email saying one thing and a text another until finally workmen arrived to remove the faulty cooker - with no replacement and no idea as to when we'd receive a replacement. THIS WAS DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS. Faced with the prospect of no baking or cooking over the festive season, we insisted on a replacement at the same time as removal. Finally the two things were arranged to coincide in the new year.

The replacement has now, within months, shown all manner of faults. JL arranged to send a workman in between 2 and 5 on a given date. My husband waited at home for the entire afternoon and finally at 5:30 the workman called to say he might be with us in a further half hour. At 6:30, when my husband had finally been forced to leave for an important engagement, the workman called again to say he was on his way.

JL's website says that if an arrangement is made and we are not home they will charge us. i.e. their time is important and worth money. Apparently this doesn't work the other way around. Now we have to await another call or email again to make another arrangement, wait again and hope because apparently our time, the time of paying customers, is not important and not worth anything.

I went onto the JL website to say all this and received an email rejecting my review as unsuitable. AND TELLING ME THAT IF I HAD A PROBLEM TO TAKE IT UP WITH CUSTOMER SERVICES. I think that either the moderator is functionally illiterate or totally stupid - or perhaps it's just JL continuing to treat us like we not only don't matter but we cannot even have a voice to protest being treated like rubbish

Aderyn2016 · 19/04/2017 19:28

I'm with the OP on this. If JL sub contract then ultimately they are responsible for the way those contractors conduct themselves. The OP could have had her child injured or worse and they didn't even knock on the door to apologise and see that everything was okay.

Hate to say it but I think they are getting a bit sloppy. Waitrose near me is going downhill fast - empty shelves, broken loo, a bit grubby. If they are going to charge the prices they do then their service/stores have to offer something better than the competition.

cowgirlsareforever · 19/04/2017 19:30

I have had three episodes of terrible customer service from JL.

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