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samvimesboots · 03/12/2025 13:12

Can someone please just confirm that my understanding is correct for problem 15 (answer is attached) .

If an equation has n rather than an x or y should my DC always assume this is a count so all answers should work with n=1, n=2 etc.

Thank you

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Cocorico22 · 03/12/2025 13:17

It’s a sequence rather than a count, n refers to the “number in the list” I.e. n=1 is the first, n=2 is the second etc.

but yes, the correct answer must be valid for all values of n

samvimesboots · 03/12/2025 13:20

Cocorico22 · 03/12/2025 13:17

It’s a sequence rather than a count, n refers to the “number in the list” I.e. n=1 is the first, n=2 is the second etc.

but yes, the correct answer must be valid for all values of n

Thank you that is useful.

Is it safe to assume the sequence will always be 1,2,3 etc unless otherwise explicitly told.

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myopinionis · 03/12/2025 13:22

It's conventional to use n or i for sequences, but no guarantee of that.

The fact that it's referring to "this sequence" and then shows a sequence of numbers is what tells you the expression will be evaluated with 1, 2, 3, etc substituted in.

The letter chosen is just convention.

Ohmydears · 03/12/2025 13:23

Yes it will always be n=1, n=2 as ‘n’ describes the position in the sequence. Unless you are told, for example, ‘the seventh term in a sequence is…’, then n=7.

Ohmydears · 03/12/2025 13:28

It may be worth addressing the misconception in the incorrect answer of ‘n + 7’. The student has an understanding that the sequence increases by 7 each time so has chosen ‘+7’. There is a gap in knowledge there that a sequence that increases by 7 each time is connected to the 7 times table. The 7 times table has the nth term 7n, as it goes 7x1, 7x2 etc. So this sequence must also have a rule containing 7n. As it starts with a number 2 less than 7, it must be 7n - 2.

TeenToTwenties · 03/12/2025 13:31

the gap (7) is the multiplier.
then to find the + or - number find the 0th term (in this case -2) (ie the term that would be the term before the first term)
so the answer is 7n-2

samvimesboots · 03/12/2025 13:34

Ohmydears · 03/12/2025 13:28

It may be worth addressing the misconception in the incorrect answer of ‘n + 7’. The student has an understanding that the sequence increases by 7 each time so has chosen ‘+7’. There is a gap in knowledge there that a sequence that increases by 7 each time is connected to the 7 times table. The 7 times table has the nth term 7n, as it goes 7x1, 7x2 etc. So this sequence must also have a rule containing 7n. As it starts with a number 2 less than 7, it must be 7n - 2.

Thanks - I think DC had never come across the concept of n meaning a sequence. DC had solved it by putting 5,12, 19 etc into n so answer A n +5 works
5 +7 =12
12 + 7= 19
19 +7 = 26
I suspect the question was deliberately set up to trip up kids that have not come across n in an equation

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samvimesboots · 03/12/2025 13:36

myopinionis · 03/12/2025 13:22

It's conventional to use n or i for sequences, but no guarantee of that.

The fact that it's referring to "this sequence" and then shows a sequence of numbers is what tells you the expression will be evaluated with 1, 2, 3, etc substituted in.

The letter chosen is just convention.

Thank you. Looking for the "this sequence" is a great tip

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samvimesboots · 03/12/2025 13:39

Ohmydears · 03/12/2025 13:28

It may be worth addressing the misconception in the incorrect answer of ‘n + 7’. The student has an understanding that the sequence increases by 7 each time so has chosen ‘+7’. There is a gap in knowledge there that a sequence that increases by 7 each time is connected to the 7 times table. The 7 times table has the nth term 7n, as it goes 7x1, 7x2 etc. So this sequence must also have a rule containing 7n. As it starts with a number 2 less than 7, it must be 7n - 2.

and you are right I need to include in the explanation the connection to the 7 times table. It's a good approach thank you

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Grammarninja · 03/12/2025 13:41

Exactly. It should hold true for all values of n. The second answer is correct.

samvimesboots · 03/12/2025 13:41

Thanks everyone who answered. I know how to explain it now. I really appreciate you all taking the time to help me. Thank you

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TeenToTwenties · 03/12/2025 13:42

Sequences are in Foundation level GCSE. There is nothing deliberately set up to trip up students. It is a straightforward question.

samvimesboots · 03/12/2025 13:43

TeenToTwenties · 03/12/2025 13:42

Sequences are in Foundation level GCSE. There is nothing deliberately set up to trip up students. It is a straightforward question.

This is 11+

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TeenToTwenties · 03/12/2025 13:45

samvimesboots · 03/12/2025 13:43

This is 11+

Ah OK.
That explains why the answer seems to use trial and error rather than a proper solution!

samvimesboots · 03/12/2025 14:04

TeenToTwenties · 03/12/2025 13:45

Ah OK.
That explains why the answer seems to use trial and error rather than a proper solution!

It is good to know this is foundation GCSE. I might google and see if I can get some more questions DC can practice with. But I think they will get the answer with the explanations people have helped with here

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Ohmydears · 03/12/2025 14:07

Make sure they are solid that 7n means 7 x n, and that this is transferable to any algebra/letter used. E.g. 3y means 3 x y. This is a really common gap in this age group if it hasn’t been properly taught and explored and can appear in a variety of topics/concepts. Good luck to your DC!

samvimesboots · 03/12/2025 14:31

Ohmydears · 03/12/2025 14:07

Make sure they are solid that 7n means 7 x n, and that this is transferable to any algebra/letter used. E.g. 3y means 3 x y. This is a really common gap in this age group if it hasn’t been properly taught and explored and can appear in a variety of topics/concepts. Good luck to your DC!

Good tip. I will do.

It's been so long since I've done these topics. I'm quite enjoying revisiting things but I do worry about accidentally teaching DC "the wrong method". Having people who can sanity checking me is great. Thanks

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TeenToTwenties · 03/12/2025 17:07

Another example
34, 28, 22, 16, ...

Consistent gap of -6
The 'zeroth' term would be 40.
So the sequence is -6n+40

samvimesboots · 03/12/2025 18:40

TeenToTwenties · 03/12/2025 17:07

Another example
34, 28, 22, 16, ...

Consistent gap of -6
The 'zeroth' term would be 40.
So the sequence is -6n+40

wonderful. We've been through the question tonight and DC got the concept. I did some simple examples and they got it.

I'll try your example later. Thanks

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