I want to deregister Y10 DD, we'll probaby lose EHCP

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DD is in Y10 and really not coping at school. She has EHCP for cognition and learning - mainly dyslexia and learning anxiety. She goes to school but not really to classes so isn't learning.

Last year she was anxious and self harming. Private therapy really helped with that v. expensive though. She is currently depressed and has suicidal thoughts. Is known to CAMHs but shes stuck in cross referrals between them, well-being service and gp.

As whole point of KS4 schooling is to push her through GCSEs and given the fact she has missed most of first 18 months, failing has become self fulfilling prophecy. I think we should get her out of there. Unschool her, allow her to follow her many talents and interests and try again in college at 16+

What do you think?

I home educate and it’s the best things we’ve ever done. I do privately have them tutored though….

I would recommend it but someone I know whose son is on an EhCP is having real troubles taking her son out of school but he’s in a SEN school.

im not really up on the laws. They’re a fantastic Facebook page though that is!

Thankyou

Deregistering from a SS is different to a MS even if the pupil in MS has an EHCP. Although, permission to deregister from a SS should not be withheld unnecessarily.

I just want to share what the first year of the EOTAS arrangement looked like for my DS in case it helps anyone. My son was unable to leave his room for the first 6 months due to intense trauma.

CAMHS and psychotherapy and OT went in Section F on the basis that it formed an educational need - outcome with the intention of returning to a curriculum based education when able.

Lap top with access to gaming and some educational programmes (like minecraft)- This was in section F - outcome the same as the one for camhs and psychotherapy.

Tutor - The first 12 months we had a sen tutor with the sole job of building a relationship. She would come to the house and have a cup of tea with me. If my son was able to be downstairs she would say hi, that was it. Outcome to build trust with a person in the teaching profession. Over time this built to him walking dog with me and the teacher. Then board games. Then slowly slowing after probably more than 18 months some gentle teaching began.

Now many many years later my son is actually back in mainstream provision, he still has an amazing relationship with this teacher who now teaches my youngest on EOTAS.

Education can be very loosely defined and child centred in an EOTAS set up so long as the Outcome is educational. Building relationships and trust is a valid outcome.

Hope that helps someone.

Interesting package life. It is wonderful DS has progressed to the point of mainstream college.

DS1 was attending a CAMHS unit when he first got his EHCP. At that point F included psychiatrist, clinical psychologist, OT, SIOT, SALT, physio, nursing/specialist carers and an ipad and specialist software. Many years later DS1 still has lots of therapies/therapeutic input but also tutors, other provision and a budget for other things.

Interesting package life. It is wonderful DS has progressed to the point of mainstream college.

I still can't quite believe it. This morning he has woken up in Disneyland Paris on an A Level psychology trip!

When he was 9 it was a failed residential and autism masking that started the trauma.

When I dropped him off at the coach on Saturday morning I half thought he wouldn't go through with it, but he has!

The right support can be life changing (and life saving).

Sorry for the derail OP.

My DD who has an EOTAS arrangement is also dyslexic and had major anxieties in school .

I would push for the therapies to go in section F because there is an educational need. The LA then needs to fund.

Any education can be delivered by EOTAS.

I'm not sure that online schools are a great idea with dyslexia. I think someone mentioned Interhigh upthread. I looked into that for DD but they don't differentiate for learning difficulties so I think they would probably not assist with anxiety. Although I have heard of people using Interhigh or similar with a TA to support.

If her mental health is poor I would suggest that you remove school from the equation and consider asking for AP/ EOTAS. It can be suited to her interests such as art classes or horse riding. My DD has an excellent english teacher who is training her on using voice recognition software. She will have a scribe and a reader for her GCSEs.

Bear in mind that there is no need, out of the school scenario, for a child to do 9 GCSEs. If you learn at home she only needs to do the number required for the next stage. My son did 6 to go on for A Levels. Perhaps look at what she would need for the college setting/ course that she's interested in and focus on meeting that entry requirement?

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Wow! I hope all goes well.

Thanks all I don't mind the derails and difference of opinion its all interesting! Really like hearing other experiences although one of my take aways is that each child and each situation is unique.

DD is now desperate to stay in school to do her silver DofE with her freinds, stay on netball team and is doing really well at English with 1-2-1 HLTA. Really annoying kind of wish she wasn't!

Have meeting arranged with Senco and HLTA to see what is minimum for 'regular' attendance. As pp upthread have argued there is some value in doing GCSE through school. She would prob do them sometime and we could at least bag English in 2024 without independently registering.

May still look at how much we can add to EOTAS - she has another 3.5 years to 18, end of year 13

If DD wants to be in school and can attend part time then what about sticking with that but some form of other provision (therapies, home or online tuition, an AP, a mentor/carer/TA… whatever meets DD’s needs) for the rest of time?

If DD is doing well 1:1 with the HLTA for English that could be extended to more time with them adding in other subjects. Would DD be able to cope with that?

The EHCP can continue until 25 or 26 in some circumstances.

Yes not sure if I can get school to accept she is going to school for 1-2-1 tuition. They seem to have to persevere with getting her into classes which is where the issues are. But I'll try.

Ask for an early review of the EHCP with a view to amending the provision in F, then if it is in the EHCP it must be provided.

In the meantime sometimes s.19 provision is delivered within schools for part of the time.