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WWYD -SN & GCSEs

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Caramellatteplease · 18/07/2021 09:32

Not sure whether to put this in SN or home ed

DS has significant SN. We're pootling through the GCSE curriculum at home (geog, science, maths and English) but its becoming increasingly clear that I dont think he'll get above a level 2or 3 maybe a 4 in maths. Is there any point him taking the actual GCSEs? For the most part He will quite happily work through the topics but his exam style questions are diabolical and dont reflect his intelligence or the interest he shows doing the work. Some topics are diabolical and completely miserable however hard he tries. If we weren't doing the actual GCSEs we just wouldn't bother

I can provide him with secure housing for his lifetime. I can't imagine him ever working. But half of me feels like I'm writing him off before hes even begun.

Wwyd

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CassandraTrotter · 18/07/2021 09:36

Do different qualifications with him.

And i get you totally. Thats how some of the exams are designed and it is unfair. As a department, there have been times we have argued about what a question is asking. And we all have degrees and post-grad in the subject.

TeenMinusTests · 18/07/2021 09:42

What is the down side to attempting the GCSEs? Would it cause unnecessary stress / meltdowns etc?
Could you try the L1 and then L2 Functional Skills maths instead?

Do you have any plan for after GCSEs? e.g. Would he be kept being taught maths at college if he hadn't got a certain qualification?

Different exam boards have slightly different style questions. Although the topics will be the same you may find that accessibility of e.g. OCR for your DS is better than Edexcel or AQA.

Caramellatteplease · 18/07/2021 10:36

Tbh it's mainly the cost. And sensing his frustration.

With him being Home Ed the costs are all on me. He needs every adaptation going, from scribes to extra time, which are all extra money on top. Worse is that his condition hives him brain fog. If left to his own devices, He can quite easily pass half hour staring into space and not have a clue on a bad day. I think a scribe is only allowed to scribe, they can nudge you back on track.

If the GCSEs are not going to be high enough to lead to anything is taking them a better learning experience than travelling and seeing stuff related to stuff hes interested in. I'm really not sure. Or I think maybe I am but I'm having trouble making peace with that decision.

There isnt a plan. Pre covid I'd just blithely assumed he'd go onto college. School were saying all the right things although it's clear now I'm more involved directly in his education it was all a bit of a fantasy. Local college has increased its entry requirements to 5 at 5 which even their optimistic he might get a 4 isnt realistic. Besides which it throws him straight back with the same peer group that DD thinks were bullying
him at school (he wouldn't say). and his SN related fatigue levels wouldn't support travelling on top of a school day. That's if Covid goes away cos hes CEV.

I'm not sure the functional maths would help a huge amount. He cant remember times tables or count reliably to 20. He can however do stuff like rearrange a formula and solve simultaneously equations if hes allowed a calculator to do the simple sums.

I must seem horribly negative. I really just want him to be happy. Hes a really lovely young man when he is happy and well.

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TeenMinusTests · 18/07/2021 10:46

Local college has increased its entry requirements to 5 at 5

That sounds like a requirement for A levels?
What about vocational BTEC courses or would they not be suitable for other reasons?

SCMocha · 18/07/2021 11:35

There are adaptations available that allow a prompter of some sort, to get students back on track if they can't focus. I don't know the details, but might be worth chatting to an exams officer to find out what is available and how/what you'd have to prove to get that, given you're home ed.

Also, you could look at some of the iGCSE qualifications, if they are still available (my knowledge is from about 3 years ago, and things may have changed). But at that time, the maths consisted of 2 papers, both with calculator. The drawback was that the questions could be worded in some unusual ways, in order to test certain types of knowledge that would have been too easy with the calculator - e.g., simplifying surds or whatever - so they'd word them in ways that meant you had to prove things or show every step etc., which I know some students found challenging. Worth a look, though.

Saracen · 18/07/2021 13:28

I guess you have only withdrawn your son from school recently? There is no rush to get qualifications. He may not need them at all. If he does, he may do them when he is a bit older or a lot older. For now, why not just educate him in the way that suits him best, and put the qualifications on the back burner?

Is your son actually learning much from his GCSE study? Even for many neurotypical kids, GCSEs are a slog, not enjoyable, not very educational. There is a lot of emphasis on the assessment process and not so much on understanding. The curriculum can be quite rigid. Just about all of the home ed parents I know describe the "GCSE years" as being far less educational than anything their kids did before or later. It is the tail wagging the dog.

The school system is full of age-linked targets which for some kids (many kids? most kids?) are not in their best interests. What is so special about 16? Only that that is the end of Compulsory School Age, after which it's assumed that education may end, the child may be "lost to the system", and they'll have no future if they haven't bagged some decent GCSEs. And of course the school wants as many children as possible to get as many GCSEs as possible by the time they leave that school, so the school looks good; often there is little thought for whether being pushed through so many GCSEs is right for a particular child.

But for home educated kids, there is no natural end point to their education. There's only a technicality: you are only legally obliged to provide an education until the end of CSA. But like all other loving parents, you and I will continue to educate our kids as long as they need it, not stopping when they are 16. In the case of my child, and perhaps yours, we may be educating them well into their 20s. So there is no hurry with anything.

My 15yo has a moderate learning disability. I rather doubt GCSEs will ever be right for her. Certainly not next year. I won't rule them out altogether, because kids do develop quite a lot over time. Heck, this time last year my daughter was almost entirely unable to read, and now she can read almost everything at speed. But for now, GCSEs seem profoundly inappropriate for her. I don't want to waste her time or ruin her self esteem by pushing her through them.

Like you, I feel no urgency about getting her out the door living independently. So my focus is on helping her learn about whatever interests her, as well as on imparting some key skills I think will be useful to her: finding her way around, managing money, protecting herself from exploitation, cooking and washing her own clothes. I take her to museums, help her find documentaries, get her together with people who will talk to her about their jobs.

Formal qualifications may well be helpful for getting a job. Functional Skills will be appropriate for her someday, I think, but again there's no urgency. She seems very young compared with other teens, and it feels premature to look at how she can fit into the system. I am looking at helping her learn the skills she needs to know. Proving that knowledge to other people may be important one day, but it isn't dominating our daily life now.

"Everybody else" is doing GCSEs at around the age of 16, including most of the other home ed teens we know. But my daughter isn't everybody else.

Hexagon · 25/07/2021 21:53

Have you come across the home ed exam wiki pages? You might find qualifications there that are more suited to your son. he-exams.wikia.org/wiki/HE_Exams_Wiki Have you considered doing Trinity Arts Awards? They (bronze and silver awards) are quite nice as a first level 2 qualification as you can scribe for your son if he dictates what he wants to say and there is no exam to take.

catndogslife · 26/07/2021 17:36

Have you tried your local hospital education service?
They can act as an exam centre for students being home-ed due to medical conditions and provide all the access arrangements.

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