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Year 5

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GalaxyCookieCrumble · 29/08/2020 05:55

Hello, I will be home schooling my Year 5 child as I am extremely clinically vulnerable and following my GP's advice to keep said child off.

Having already had some resistance from child's school, I know they have to provide remote learning, but could anybody please point me in the direction of where I could find this upcoming years curriculum so I can start resourcing information please?

I have Twinkl and have some stuff saved, but if I can get any extra help or resources I would be extremely grateful.

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Prettybluepigeons · 29/08/2020 05:57

If you're going to be home schooling then why do you think the school have to provide remote learning? I thought home schooling was the parent's responsibility?

flyingant · 29/08/2020 06:10

Each school's curriculum for the upcoming year will be different, with different topics being taught, but the learning objectives are usually based around the National curriculum in England: primary curriculum

Ginfilledcats · 29/08/2020 07:10

I may be mistaken but if you choose to home school your child (regardless of reason) you give up their place in school so I highly doubt your school with provide you with anything at all. And won't be able to guarantee you a place should your child wish to return next year.

That being said, as pp said, all schools use a variety of curriculums, if you want to be in line with your school I'd ask them. If not, pay for a home Ed package and follow that.

Good luck to you both

Saracen · 29/08/2020 09:20

Hi Galaxy, I believe the government's current line is that children can't transmit Covid-19 and therefore your child's attendance doesn't pose a risk to you, and therefore absences won't be authorised in a situation such as yours. (Children who are themselves clinically highly vulnerable can stay off school, however. Go figure.)

Who told you that the school must provide remote learning? They only have to do that if they agree that the child must be off school.

If you deregister your child from school to home educate then you won't have any hassle about attendance. However, the LA (and school) have no obligation to give you any help with home education and it is rare for them to do so. It isn't too hard to come up with things yourself - there are plenty of resources available - but you should be prepared to do it on your own. The other downside of elective home education during Covid-19 is that the school cannot hold the place open for you even if they wanted to. If the school is oversubscribed then when you want your child to return to school you will have to send them to a school which has vacancies.

GalaxyCookieCrumble · 29/08/2020 17:35

@Prettybluepigeons

If you're going to be home schooling then why do you think the school have to provide remote learning? I thought home schooling was the parent's responsibility?
No if shielding the school has to provide remote education as stated in the Schools Government policy.
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GalaxyCookieCrumble · 29/08/2020 17:39

@Ginfilledcats

I may be mistaken but if you choose to home school your child (regardless of reason) you give up their place in school so I highly doubt your school with provide you with anything at all. And won't be able to guarantee you a place should your child wish to return next year.

That being said, as pp said, all schools use a variety of curriculums, if you want to be in line with your school I'd ask them. If not, pay for a home Ed package and follow that.

Good luck to you both

No as stated above my child is shielding therefore does not need to de register, the school are still being paid for child so have to provide remote learning instead. This is in the Schools Government policy for the reopening of schools. I have had the head saying the same thing until the policy was sent outlining my child's rights. I think many other parents who are not aware of this, need to know.
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GalaxyCookieCrumble · 29/08/2020 17:40

@Saracen

Hi Galaxy, I believe the government's current line is that children can't transmit Covid-19 and therefore your child's attendance doesn't pose a risk to you, and therefore absences won't be authorised in a situation such as yours. (Children who are themselves clinically highly vulnerable can stay off school, however. Go figure.)

Who told you that the school must provide remote learning? They only have to do that if they agree that the child must be off school.

If you deregister your child from school to home educate then you won't have any hassle about attendance. However, the LA (and school) have no obligation to give you any help with home education and it is rare for them to do so. It isn't too hard to come up with things yourself - there are plenty of resources available - but you should be prepared to do it on your own. The other downside of elective home education during Covid-19 is that the school cannot hold the place open for you even if they wanted to. If the school is oversubscribed then when you want your child to return to school you will have to send them to a school which has vacancies.

It is clearly documented in the Governments guidance for those shielding, including clinically vulnerable children and parents.
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MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 29/08/2020 17:46

Hi OP. Have a look at Oak Academy. It's free, and covers (I think) all years and all subjects.

Also I find BBC bitesize to be excellent.

Good luck! I'm doing it too.

GalaxyCookieCrumble · 29/08/2020 17:52

The following was taken direct from the Reopening of Schools Dated 28/08/20, under Attendance;

Where a pupil is unable to attend school because they are complying with clinical or public health advice, we expect schools to be able to immediately offer them access to remote education.

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MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 29/08/2020 17:54

Yep, that bit of the guidance was very neatly tucked away, but it is there.

GalaxyCookieCrumble · 29/08/2020 17:55

@MilesJuppIsMyBitch hi thank you!
Good luck to you as well!

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FakeFlamingo · 29/08/2020 18:13

Can you provide a link to the guidance please?

FakeFlamingo · 29/08/2020 18:15

Sorry I meant the guidance where not the pupil but parent is vulnerable & hence the child cannot attend school.

Also did you have to provide a GP letter that said your child should stay off school.

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 29/08/2020 18:19

This is the quote:

'Where a pupil is unable to attend school because they are complying with clinical or public health advice, we expect schools to be able to immediately offer them access to remote education. Schools should monitor engagement with this activity as set out in the action for all schools and local authorities section.
Where children are not able to attend school as parents and carers are following clinical or public health advice, for example, self-isolation or family isolation, the absence will not be penalised.'

And it's here

FakeFlamingo · 29/08/2020 18:22

@MilesJuppIsMyBitch thank you. Doesn't this refer to self isolation due to potential covid infection and not really 'shielding'? That's how I read it earlier.

Does this require a GP letter stating the child of a vulnerable parent should not attend school?

I am in the same boat but I interpreted the guidelines differently. Hence wondering...

Dontiknowit · 29/08/2020 18:26

For maths look at White Rose. Most schools follow this scheme of learning. Its brilliant and obv follows the curriculum. I'd suggest you pay for the premium resources- there are teaching videos, worksheets etc. Don't use twinkl for maths - it's good for supplemental resources for teachers who know what they're looking for but would be confusing for you.
Also make sure they are quick with their times tables and addition facts within 20. Hit the Button online game (free) and times table rock stars (£6 for family subscription a year) are best for this.

For english use twinkl. Find the spelling resources for year 5, they have this set out in terms. Use the reading comprehension for reading practise and the text type unit plans for writing.

For other subjects use bbc bitesize and twinkl.

You'll find guides to the national curriculum requirements for year 5 on twinkl or you could look directly at the NC - google 2013 primary curriculum. It's pretty straightforward.

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 29/08/2020 18:29

[quote FakeFlamingo]@MilesJuppIsMyBitch thank you. Doesn't this refer to self isolation due to potential covid infection and not really 'shielding'? That's how I read it earlier.

Does this require a GP letter stating the child of a vulnerable parent should not attend school?

I am in the same boat but I interpreted the guidelines differently. Hence wondering...[/quote]
Well, it only gives the isolating as an example.

This bit: 'Where children are not able to attend school as parents and carers are following clinical or public health advice," is the key bit for us, I think.

My consultant has strongly advised me to keep shielding, and I can't do that if the kids are at school.

The consultant wrote a letter supporting me, & the school have been great.

wfh2020 · 29/08/2020 18:35

Oaks national academy was really helpful during lockdown and is set to provide complete curriculum for the coming year. Just choose you child's year and day of the week and there are classes to follow

Saracen · 29/08/2020 22:01

Okay, I stand corrected.

Hope it all goes well for you!

GalaxyCookieCrumble · 30/08/2020 02:02

@FakeFlamingo

Sorry I meant the guidance where not the pupil but parent is vulnerable & hence the child cannot attend school.

Also did you have to provide a GP letter that said your child should stay off school.

Hello, sorry I am late at returning, yes I did have to provide evidence.
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GalaxyCookieCrumble · 30/08/2020 02:03

@Dontiknowit

For maths look at White Rose. Most schools follow this scheme of learning. Its brilliant and obv follows the curriculum. I'd suggest you pay for the premium resources- there are teaching videos, worksheets etc. Don't use twinkl for maths - it's good for supplemental resources for teachers who know what they're looking for but would be confusing for you. Also make sure they are quick with their times tables and addition facts within 20. Hit the Button online game (free) and times table rock stars (£6 for family subscription a year) are best for this.

For english use twinkl. Find the spelling resources for year 5, they have this set out in terms. Use the reading comprehension for reading practise and the text type unit plans for writing.

For other subjects use bbc bitesize and twinkl.

You'll find guides to the national curriculum requirements for year 5 on twinkl or you could look directly at the NC - google 2013 primary curriculum. It's pretty straightforward.

Thank you!
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scoobydoo1971 · 30/08/2020 11:43

My daughter is about the start year 5. She has ASD, severe dyspraxia, auditory processing disorder and dyslexia-traits. I took her from primary school after two disasterous placements so she has been out of school for one year. In that time, her maths ability has gone from a 5 to an 8 year old, and her reading ability has gone from 6 years to 11 years. She was very emotionally distressed from her poor school experiences, but we worked on resilience and now she is very confident. I also home educate her older brother aged 12. I am a teacher so perhaps this transition came along easier for myself, and I appreciate it can be daunting...but there are a lot of resources available online (often free). I would not send my children back to school now as I am in a clinically vulnerable position also. I use the following resources: bitesize, youtube channels (homeschool pop etc), TES lesson plans and I buy used workbooks from ebay. If you want to know what learning outcomes are expected for KS2, you can google year 5/ KS2 school learning...dozens of guides are available from schools to inform parents of what the expectations are for a given year. Additionally, you could look into online schooling and join facebook home ed communities for tips. We were with MyOnlineSchooling last year and I found it beneficial to get a sense of the pace of lessons and depth of content. We won't be doing that again this year as I can provide lessons myself, but it may be something you wish to consider. Good luck!

Everydayaschoolday · 17/09/2020 22:59

A suggestion for workbooks if you think you're going to need to supplement what the school provide. CGP follow the National Curriculum and they break their textbooks and workbooks into Year groups. I know our local primary school are following the topics in the same year as CGP have them in their year groups, but I'd check what Science, history and geography topics your child's class will be covering this year, and if they're not under the CGP Y5 filter, have a look in Y4 or Y6 instead. The Maths and English Y5 workbooks will be the same level as your child's class. Here's a link to CGP and I've filtered for Year 5. Good luck.
www.cgpbooks.co.uk/primary-books/ks2/year-5-(ages-9-10)

Everydayaschoolday · 17/09/2020 23:07

Some super free resources (where possible, I've filtered for Y5 or KS2):
www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/this-terms-topics
www.bbc.co.uk/teach/ks2/zvh3jhv
classroom.thenational.academy/subjects-by-year/year-5
www.dkfindout.com/uk/

OytheBumbler · 17/09/2020 23:10

My school is following the White Rose curriculum in preparation for wfh. Even if a bubble is absent for 14 days they should still be up to date when they return.

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