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Non Verbal Reasoning questions - I'm rubbish!

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NadiSel · 06/01/2020 15:21

Can anyone help please? I tore out and have now lost the answer booklet (actually a couple of pages) from the book. And now I can't mark my Dd's work.

Its the CGP 11+ Non-Verbal Reasoning Book 1 for the CEM (Durham University), 10 mins tests book, for Ages 10-11. Its the one with the orange cover. ISBN 9781782942603 if that helps?

I am really rubbish at these type of questions so have no way of knowing whether what my boy is doing is right or wrong.

They're just sqiggles to me!

In fact I actually think he knows this and is putting any old answer down as he knows I can't do these questions!

Can anyone send me a pic of the answer sheet?

Thanks

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steppemum · 06/01/2020 15:24

I don't have that book, but if you photograph it, I can answer them
(11+ tutor)

You may find they are available on line, did you buy it this year? My new ones have an on-line code in the front.

NadiSel · 07/01/2020 23:17

Steppemum sorry I didn't spot your reply. The pic shows the book I have.

Thats very kind of you. But each test is several pages long and there's lots of them so I wouldn't want to take up your time doing the tests.

I was rather hoping someone would have the answers pullout sheets from the back of the book!

Any tips on how to do these types of questions in the time available? I can stare at them for ages and not get the pattern.

Non Verbal Reasoning questions - I'm rubbish!
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steppemum · 08/01/2020 10:43

Is this the only book you have used?
This is a practice book, but to learn how to do them there is a better book.
The CPG 11+ Non- Verbal reasoning Practice Book (not 10 minute tests)
ISBN - 978 1 78908 151 0

This goes through step by step the things that you need to look for
eg
what shapes are there?
How many sides (so is there a sequence, 3, sided, 4 sided, 5 sided shapes? or a pattern a 3 sided inside a 4 sided shape, and then a 5 sided inside a 6 sided shape)
Is the pattern related to lines of symmetry?
What colours and shading?
What lines - dots, solid line, dashes
Which direction do the arrows/line etc point in? Is there a clockwise/anticlockwise pattern?
What order/position are the shapes/pattern on the page?
Is there a rotated [attern/shape?
is there a reflected one?
Are the shapes layered on each other, which one is top and which is bottom?
Then there are rotated 2D and 3D shapes, and folding.

I tell my students that they need to look for a pattern that they can describe, so
the black triangle becomes white and moves ot the left.
or
each line has a square, triangle and a pentagon, and each column has a black, a white and stripey shape.

I hope some of that is useful, sorry , it is hard to do over the internet!

NadiSel · 08/01/2020 21:25

That's fantastic thank you for taking the time. Really appreciated!

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HollyBollyBooBoo · 04/02/2020 12:39

@steppemum I'm so sorry to highjack this thread but wondering if you could advise...we've got the GL test papers but is there an equivalent GL book to the one you recommended above - one that actually explains why the answer is what it is? DD is flying through verbal reasoning but we're struggling with non verbal.

I'm struggling to identify the right one on Amazon. Thanks in advance.

steppemum · 04/02/2020 13:00

Hi Holly, pretty sure this is it:
book

but if not, then the GL and CEM tests are very similar (for most things) so the practice books for either should be fine.

I like the CGP books, because their answer pages always explain why, so you can learn from them (same applies to their maths/English etc)

but once you have got the basics, do use other non verbal reasoning practice, like Bond (on-line or books) as they do have slightly different styles and some different things. CGP is 100% (but it is pretty good). I think Bond is harder too, so it gives them more of a stretch once they have worked out what to do.

The biggest mantra for NVR?

If in doubt - COUNT!
(no of sides, legs, dots, stripes....)

HollyBollyBooBoo · 04/02/2020 15:23

Thanks so much, really appreciate your advice!

steppemum · 04/02/2020 22:31

sorry, last post should say
CGP ISN'T 100%

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