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Can anyone tell me about flexi-schooling?

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FrannyandZooey · 20/03/2007 20:52

Have you done it? Know anyone that has? What are the pros and cons do you think? How do you go about approaching a head to ask about this? Has anyone asked and been knocked back?

Also, would enquiring at a local school that seems a possibility for flexi-schooling bring me to the attention of the LEA sooner than it need otherwise do (if they don't agree to go for it)? We are not registering ds at a school so we kind of hope to escape notice for a good few years yet; a friend of ours managed 5 years before they got any contact from the LEA...

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FrannyandZooey · 20/03/2007 21:10

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FrannyandZooey · 20/03/2007 21:23

The school I am thinking about is not over subscribed and has a very flexible head fro what I hear.

I am thinking there would be a few pluses for us:

free childcare (not to be sniffed at )

socialisation - the old chestnut - this would be more like a way of stopping people flapping about it all the time, rather than something I actually feel he would need

access to equipment and resources that we simply don't have

possibility of doing group sports and activities like drama and singing?

can people think of more, and tell me why you would / would not consider this for your own children, please?

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Dottydot · 20/03/2007 21:25

Hi,
I think one reason I wouldn't consider it because I wouldn't want my children to be considered 'odd' because they start/finish school at different times (I'm getting the irony by the way at me worrying about my children being seen as odd..! ). If that's a correct definition of flexi-schooling - that they'd do different hours/days?

Dottydot · 20/03/2007 21:27

I suppose all the stuff you've listed means to me that it's better they go to school - I agree with everything you've listed! The stuff we can teach them, about life, at home can be done at weekends, before and after school and in the holidays - of which there are many...

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FrannyandZooey · 20/03/2007 21:32

Ah, dottydot, we have already decided to Home Ed, so this would be just another way to liven up the mix a bit for him.

If we can't flexi school then we will just home educate him full time

(I think learning about life should be a continuous thing, not a weekend thing, myself)

erm yes take your point about him being considered odd - you mean he might be picked on? If it did not work out / he was not happy with it we would not continue

My ideal is that he would go in for one or two mornings a week. I have no idea if this is feasible but I think I have read of it happening, elsewhere?

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Dottydot · 20/03/2007 21:35

(F&Z - I hope you don't think we just teach our children about life on a part-time basis - I'm quite hurt by that...)

Yes, I think I'd worry that ds's would be 'those kids that just come in from 9am - 12pm' or whatever. Children can be quite merciless and any excuse to tease someone (i'm not selling the school thing, am I? ).

Zofloyya · 20/03/2007 21:39

you have to follow the national curriculum if you flexischool. I'm guessing from the rest of what you say on this thread that that wouldn't be what you'd want...

also, I think dropping in for just one or two sessions a week to a social situation where the other children and adults were in much more sustained relationships with each other would be tricky. different from a home ed group where everyone would be on a more even footing (though obv some relationships outwith the group would be warmer and closer than others)

FrannyandZooey · 20/03/2007 21:41

No, I don't think that really, it was sort of a natural follow on to what you said though

(apologies if you really are offended though, it was more cheeky than serious)

No I do take your point and will consider it

the thing is though, I got quite a lot of stick for being odd at school and I would bet it is a fair bit easier to hack it if you only go in for one morning a week, than if you are there 6 hours a day

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FrannyandZooey · 20/03/2007 21:43

Zofloyya, in what way would I have to follow the national curriculum? Obviously they would be following it at school, but I don't see why that would affect my own home arrangements?

Yes the social side would not be a breeze I think you are right

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Dottydot · 20/03/2007 21:49

It's tricky. A very wise friend of mine said that he sees school as being there to teach children the usual stuff - reading, writing, maths - and parents/family etc. are there to teach children about everything else they don't get to cover at school. I really like that premise and I know ds's know all sorts of stuff that we never did at their age because we're constantly teaching them and getting them interested in all sorts of things - I love it!

Having worried an awful lot about very shy, slightly 'different' ds1 starting school, I have to say he's come in incredibly in terms of sociability - he's got friends! The change even from when he was in pre-school is amazing. He's getting there with letters and writing - we're not pushing this at all at home - and seems to have a natural affinity with numbers, which I find very scary as I failed my maths 'o' level three times... I'm learning that his school is very good at doing what it does and we're quite happy to let school get on with that while we make sure lots of other bits of knowledge and life experiences are added into the mix.

It seems you've identified that although you're going to home ed your ds, you're aware or concerned there'll be gaps - are there other ways to fill these - home ed groups, joining sports activities at the weekend/evenings, music activities etc. I have to say I love that ds1 has a different kind of activity each day at school - he grumbles a lot about drama on a Tuesday (poor sod) but secretly loves Irish Dancing on a Wednesday!!

Dottydot · 20/03/2007 21:59

Oh god I'm worrying I've been sounding really defensive in my posts - sorry... I find school a really emotive subject, I think because it's so important and half the time I don't know whether we've made the right decision in terms of which school ds1 is at and how he and ds will fit in, cope with stuff etc.

Anyway, hope you make progress with the flexi-schooling idea - sounds like you should make an appointment to see the head?

juuule · 20/03/2007 22:07

There's some info about flexi-schooling here ,
here
and here

FrannyandZooey · 20/03/2007 22:20

Dottydot your posts have been very helpful and school IS an extremely emotive subject! I appreciate you giving me your thoughts.

Juuule thanks so much, I will follow those up tomorrow

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Zofloyya · 20/03/2007 22:26

sorry, that was a bit cryptic. The school your child goes to for whatever proportion of the time will have to inflict the NC on the nipper (unless it's a private school - and don't get me started on the iniquities of enforcing the NC in state schools, and letting the paying punters off). I don't think you can be required to do the same in the rest of the time - BUT if your child is going to make any sense of what they're doing in their school sessions, you will probably have to trail along in a similar direction. Hence 'follow'.

The key point is that once you start tangling with state-regulated education at all, it becomes very difficult to do a really autonomous, child-led kind of home ed, because the school encounter will have an impact on the rest of what you do.

I thought very seriously about flexi-schooling for my dd, but this was one of the things that put me off. it might work out OK if you felt you could confine the school sessions to ones where you would not be getting your agenda indirectly set for you by the NC.

In the end, I sent my dd to what turns out to be a lovely school, which I'm very happy with. In a different life, I might have gone for HE, though, and I do still have the odd pang. There is not much of an HE community where we live though, and my dd is massively sociable - I think I would find it really hard to provide her with enough interaction with other children on weekdays, given that most of her potential playmates would be at school...

Hope whatever you do works out well for you and nipper.

Ladymuck · 20/03/2007 22:35

I know someone who is doing this, though the school is a private one. Presumably once you register at a state school you impact their published statistics - your non-attendance is counted as either authorised or unauthorised absence, and you are included in the SAT results. I would imagine that most heads would have to discuss with the LEA so you would come to their attention.

In the particular case I know the boy had been homeschooled up until the end of year 4, and his parents wanted him to have some experience of school before going to secondary school (they didn't feel equipped to educate to secondary level and couldn't afford to tutor). I'm not sure that this has worked out exactly as they would have anticipated as it appears that he wasn't really up to the standard for Year 5, and was spending his time at school in Year 4. However he did at least get a gradual and more gentle introduction to school life, though I suspect he is still going to find secondary school a bit of a jump.

sunnysideup · 20/03/2007 23:44

Are there any local montessori schools? some of these take kids up to 7, and you could possibly arrange a flexible arrangement more easily with this sort of establishment? I dunno, am making it up as I go along

i think the idea sounds really interesting, hope you find an arrangement to suit...in answer to your question about would people do this or not with their own child, my answer would be yes I would...for me, mainly on the socialisation side. We have sent ds to school but Home ed is something I'm really interested in (and keep in mind in case we ever feel school is problematic for ds) and I have a friend who does it and her dd's education sounds magical to me! However the one thing about school that has really surprised me is the importance to ds of the social aspect. He has friends, he cares about them and they care about him, they look after each other...they have nice long playtimes where they are free to experiment with their own personalities within the group and without the strong parental influence being a factor. For ds, I think this is a good thing which has enriched his life to a surprising degree.

So yes if I home edded, I would certainly consider flexi schooling; why not cherry pick the good bits, if you can?! Good luck.

sunnydelight · 21/03/2007 15:49

My boys attended a school for a couple of years that was affiliated to the "human scale education" group. They were incredibly flexible and quite a few kids didn't attend full time. Others dipped in and out, being educated at home for a term or so then coming back to school. Because it was quite usual there the class teachers seemed to be able to accommodate it and the children weren't viewed as strange by their peers. It was fee paying though which seems to be the crux of the issue! In the end it didn't really suit my younger son's needs so we moved on, but it was lovely to be able to phone up and say "x is too tired for school today" or "it's snowing so we're all going to stay home and make a snowman" instead of the tedious fibs we are forced to tell if our children are absent from a state school. Is there anything like that near you?

FrannyandZooey · 21/03/2007 19:01

Thanks everyone for these useful and interesting posts

After doing some reading and thinking about all your points, I think I have decided not to pursue this - yet. I don't want ds's learning to be dictated by the National Curriculum and as described in one of the links juuule gave, if ds is registered with a school then his attainment will be measured in terms of the NC rather than in general terms.

It is something to consider for the future, perhaps. I would just like ds's experiences now to be as rich and varied as possible - and I think being experiencing parts of an average school day could contribute to that. However we will plan to carry on at home much as before, for the time being.

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FrannyandZooey · 21/03/2007 19:02

Sunnyd I don't think there are any human scale schools near us, sadly, and if there were we would be struggling to pay for attendance. Although I reckon my parents could probably be leant on pretty heavily "for the sake of ds's education"

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