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Any home educators in Scotland? i am going to do it, any advice

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JennyLeEVIL · 25/10/2006 14:29

I decided that i am going to home educate my son who is 7. I have done the letter asking for consent from my LEa which is west Lothian and will be posting it tomorrow. And in it I included an outline of provision of education. Is that too much information for the LEA? or is it better to tell them as much as possible how you are going to go about it? If anyone repleis i might post it on MN as I am not sure if it is adequate, but it must be.

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juuule · 25/10/2006 16:07

I don't know much about home-ed in Scotland but these people do Schoolhouse
There is also info on Education Otherwise

JennyLeEVIL · 25/10/2006 22:15

thanks for the links juule

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JennyLeEVIL · 26/10/2006 16:08

bumping my thread as ed psych today told me ds might be isolated if I go down this road.
so getting cold feet

but is better than 2 school changes in 6 month period surely? any ideas, in fact does anyone from scotland do it, or anyone in uk lol

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HumphreyComfrey · 26/10/2006 16:15

Ed Psychs do say these things, bless 'em!

Have you had a chance to check out the Education Otherwise site that Juuule mentioned?

There is a whole section on the 'Socialisation Issue', which I found very useful.

I think it would be a great idea to go along to a local home education group to discuss your worries - all of which are completely natural.

You are the person who can best decide what is best for your child. The 'experts' will always give their opinions, but they don't live your life.

The decision to home educate is huge, and it is a scary step to take at first. Once you are doing it, it is such a brilliant way of life that most of the worries disappear.

My boys have designed a website (www.home-ed-kids.com), so you can contact me directly through that if you'd like.

Your son is also welcome to contact my two (aged 8 and 10) with any questions, if he'd like to.

JennyLeEVIL · 26/10/2006 16:19

wow thank you! and I am going to look at that section in a moment. i have done all my letter s to leave uni and suspend study and to the lea i have done my letter and outline of provision but am scared to post them yet. at the same time i am excited about it and think i coudl rise to the challenge

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HumphreyComfrey · 26/10/2006 16:21

Sounds like you're all set then!

Is your son excited?

expatinscotland · 26/10/2006 16:26

Good on you, jenny!

Don't be bullied or cowed.

JennyLeEVIL · 26/10/2006 16:28

I am going to look at the site that your family has done also.
I have not told ds yet as I want to wait untill we get consent from the lea, so i wont get in trouble for non attendance untill then

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JennyLeEVIL · 26/10/2006 16:39

the kids website is very!!!! impressive

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HumphreyComfrey · 26/10/2006 16:41

Thank you - I'll tell them!

JennyLeEVIL · 26/10/2006 16:42

I am finding it hard to know who to adress my letter to the education authority to, what is the job title of the person you send it to would it be the director of education?

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HumphreyComfrey · 26/10/2006 16:49

We sent our deregistration letter to the headteacher of the school, who then forwarded it to the relevant person at the LEA.

I think this was standard procedure.

The EO website has sample deregistration letters, if that would be helpful.

The website for our local council has links to the education departments, so we got a direct address from there.

If you send it to the Director of Education, he/she will probably pass it to an Education Welfare Officer, who will contact you.

I know Scotland has different ways of working to England though, so maybe give one of the Education Otherwise advisors a call.

JennyLeEVIL · 26/10/2006 17:13

This is a copy and paste with names removed of the letter I will be sending and outline of provision let me know what you think anyone please

Dear Sir

We are writing to ask for your consent to withdraw our son from school and are informing you that after careful consideration we have decided to withdraw our son, DS aged 7 from Primary School in ***with effect from the date when we are given consent and DS will be withdrawn from the school roll and hopefully this would be as soon as possible.

In accordance with our rights and duties as parents under section 30 of the Education (Scotland) Act 1980 we propose to take personal responsibility for his education by means other than attendance at school.

DS was progressing well at his previous school, primary and was helped greatly by the staff, however at DS has found it difficult, with the change of schools and his behaviour has changed and his level of learning has diminished as a result of this, the teachers believe he has a lot of difficulties which were not manifested previously at other school to the extent they have at the moment and I feel that changing school has caused this, not the actual school itself who are helpful and supportive. As we are currently in homeless accomodation awaiting housing in one of 15 areas we have to choose, DS would be changing schools yet again in the next 6 months or sooner. I feel that the disruption to his life he has already found it hard to cope with will be greatly increased by yet another change and this is part of the reason I wish to home educate, at least for the foreseeable future.

Outline of provision of Home Education

We are confident that our provision will be suitable to DS needs, we both have a degree level education and have read widely about home education and what is required of us to provide for a child of DS age group and I would not undertake such a decision lightly. I would be the main person educating DS and his Father DH would be on hand to support this education and also participate actively if required on a day to day basis. We have been in touch with Schoolhouse which offers information and support to home educators in Scotland. We would also if necessary employ tutors if there was any circumstance where we were unable to teach a particular aspect although we feel that situation would be unlikely to arise.

We are committed to doing this as we believe our son will be more likely to realise his full potential in a home schooling environment where a mixture of structured education where necessary and also child led time when the learning is autonomous and he can use his own initiative would be beneficial.

DS has areas of difficulty regarding reading and Maths which we will be working on and loosely following the 5-14 curriculum, although there will not be any testing on a formal basis but progress will be assessed on a daily basis as we go along. I will prepare topics to undertake and discuss. The topics will be based on a project or theme which may last from a few hours to a few months which may then lead into or link to other topics. English and Maths and writing would be taught as well as discovery based learning.

We have internet access, two home computers and basic materials including books, workbooks and art materials for arts and crafts, and access to music. We also have at home or have access to: videos and DVDs, CD-ROMS and access to television programmes. We are close to a local library and sports centre would also go on educational outings and visits. Growing things and going for walks and discussing wildlife would be undertaken for example, at the same time as recording what was seen and taking notes, maybe linking into areas such as biology and measurement which link together.

My DS attends a drama class and also kickboxing and goes swimming every week and we would seek to encourage social interactions and social skills by extending this if he shows an interest in an activity, this will ensure a stimulated and physically active child.

We will begin as soon as practicable, and we envisage that by the beginning of the next school term in January, home-based learning will be well established. We trust that you will respect our decision to take this step. Please let us know if you would like us to provide any further information.

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JennyLeEVIL · 26/10/2006 17:14

Thanks humphrey for all your advice

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JennyLeEVIL · 26/10/2006 17:16

Humphrey thanks for that. it is the education welfare officer then i think and i got the addres from the council website thanks

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HumphreyComfrey · 26/10/2006 17:25

Jenny, I think it would be really useful to go on to Yahoo and search for home education groups in Scotland, as they would be able to give you more specific advice.

Link to Yahoo

Your letter is really comprehensive, but I am concerned that you are asking for consent when it is your right. (This is why I can't help specifically, as I only know the laws relating to home ed in England).

In England families are usually given several weeks after deregistration before being contacted by the LEA. This is to give a chance to settle into everything, and to decide how home ed is going to be carried out. No-one is expected to provide details of educational provision BEFORE deregistering their child - at least I haven't heard of it in England.

Please try and get online with some experienced home educating families in Scotland, as I think it would be really useful for you to have their support.

juuule · 26/10/2006 17:28

Humphrey - you still have to ask for consent in Scotland

HumphreyComfrey · 26/10/2006 17:32

Thanks, Juuule - this is why I was worried about trying to help further.

Didn't want to put my foot in it and cause any problems.

(I hope I haven't! )

juuule · 26/10/2006 17:38

Jenny here is the guidance for withdrawing your child from school in Scotland. HE Scottish Guidance
and here is a link to the EO-Scotland Yahoo group.EO-Scotland I've not been on the Scottish Yahoo group but I should imagine, if it's like the other groups, there will be someone on there who can answer any questions you may have on Scottish HE-ing.
Just looked and if that link doesn't work try this one from the EO website. Select the option at the bottom of the page.another link to EO-Scotland

JennyLeEVIL · 26/10/2006 17:38

HumphreyComfrey thanks don't worry your help adn advice has been great and perked me up a bit as the only thing stopping me posting the letter now is my parents reaction to me leaving uni with an ordinary degree and stopping now as life is too much at the moment to do my dissertation, transport childcare, etc and I want to put ds first for a change in scotland an ordinary degree is fine so i hope i can win them round

we want to stop ds's suffering, I can finish uni later if i want

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JennyLeEVIL · 26/10/2006 17:39

Juule you are great thanks again, I did lots of reading but real peoples opinions and advice is so valuable

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HumphreyComfrey · 26/10/2006 17:41

Good luck - and enjoy it!

juuule · 26/10/2006 17:42

Humphrey - I'm in England, too, so I don't know much about the differences. I remembered about the consent thing in Scotland because I think it's awful that it's needed. Stuck in my mind.

juuule · 26/10/2006 17:43

Glad it might be of some help. Good luck, Jenny.

JennyLeevesmilkandcookiesforSa · 25/11/2006 18:23

I just got a reply from my lea and I did submit a long provision of education proposal at the time. But I have been given a leaflet to go tthrough and have to submit a proposal(another one or the same one again?) and then 2 education officers will come to visit us at our house and then they will make a decision whether or not to give us permission and then every 6 moths they will review our 'curriculum' and review us yearly. beginning to think this is a huge pain in the ass and starting to understand the militancy thing. Ds is not as bad at achool now but is still having problems where the bullies wind him up untill he does someting then he gets rightly told off but they get told nothing, he is being threatened with being taken out of the christmas show if he keeps up talking in class and reacting to these kids, (I can understand that)and they have an egg timer to ty and make him do his work faster which makes him feel pressured and he hates it, none of these things is discussed with me and the kids that bully him get away with it and only he gets in trouble, it seems as he is taller than them, they get away with it as he should know better and be gentle as he is taller.

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