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morethanpotatoprints · 14/09/2012 17:07

A simle question, but how long would it be, before you could assume you had slipped under the radar. I have completed a letter for LEA but not posted it yet. I ask as we left school at end of summer term and know that our last school were not very good with communication and also believe head teacher didn't have a clue about Home ed law. Maybe she hasn't informed them, in which case I'm not so sure I will.

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ThreadWatcher · 14/09/2012 20:00

It is the schools legal duty to contact the LEA - you are not obliged to do so.
So unless you want contact soonfrom the LEA (which is unlikely to benefit you ime) I wouldnt bother.
You will be known to the LEA anyway as your dd previously went to school so eventually (one assumes) they will contact you. (we have had only two letters in 3 years)
The school will have taken your dds name off the register by now so LEA will definitely be informed soon enough if not already - Im assuming!

Saracen · 14/09/2012 22:01

Ask people in your LA how gung-ho the LA is. It varies tremendously, from a few LAs which adopt a hands-off approach and won't be in touch with you at all (though they know you are HEing) to some which send a person round to your doorstep days after the dereg letter goes in.

If others in your area who deregistered around the same time as you have had communications from the LA and you haven't, then you are probably unknown at the moment.

morethanpotatoprints · 14/09/2012 23:17

Thanks.
I was put off a bit with their proposal that you are supposed to fill in and return. The website is ok but although it does say the usual stuff about being under no obligation to have house calls, they say things like as soon as you have an officer dedicated to you, we can monitor etc. It all seemed a bit intimidating. It says you don't need to follow curriculum or teach like school but the form asks what subjects are covered and how many hours a week each are for. It even asks how you will assess learning, what resources you will use etc. My problem is that if they decided to become difficult in the future, if you complete the form they have a document in black and white. They could hold you to this.
I am correct in that if they turn up on my doorstep I can turn them away aren't I?
I don't want to be difficult with them but out of principle I don't like people or organisations that lord it when they have no right. Plus dd is a bit worried that she might be made to go to school as people have been suggesting. She hasn't seen LEA website as no need, but it even says on here they can be made to go back. It may be me but would like an experienced H.edder to look please. I will pm details.

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ThreadWatcher · 15/09/2012 21:07

Yes you can turn them away if they turn up on the doorstep.
Re the form - you are right, if you fill in loads of details now, they may hold you to it in the future.
If you do anything I would just send a brief (no more than A4 letter) but I wouldnt do that unless pushed.

How kind of them to offer to dedicate and officer to you so you can be monitored - not! That is what the Welsh Assembly Government are proposing........... accept they want to make it law not just an 'offer'

morethanpotatoprints · 15/09/2012 21:39

When I first started looking at these threads I will admit to thinking people complaining about their LEA were a bit silly really and what harm could a visit do. Now I know a little bit more and realise they have very little jurisdiction, I can fully understand why some complain. They should work within the law and not intimidate people. I hope the Welsh proposal doesn't become law. Is this where you are Thread or are you just following it?
I suppose the fact that actually they are only entitled to step in if they believe you are breaking the law, if they do make contact its like they are presuming guilt. I object to this and yes will send short letter if pushed.

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ThreadWatcher · 15/09/2012 21:51

We are in Wales

And even though the WAG are only discussing and given us the chance to respond, my sons mental health and behaviour has already been affected (he has aspergers)
I dont want to contemplate how things will be in the thread household if it does go through :(

morethanpotatoprints · 15/09/2012 22:14

Thread, really sorry you have to live with this uncertainty, I do hope they listen to you. I will be certainly following this. Is there any truth in a rumour I heard that they are doing this because of all the gypsy families and minority groups taking children out of school. Apparentely its to check that they are taught. I did hear this from gypsy community so could be them shouting persecution, as they do sometimes. Not sure if you have heard of this or not.

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ThreadWatcher · 15/09/2012 22:27

Thanks - its key I think that HErs all over the uk join in by signing any petitions/writing letters etc (there are links on the welsh consultation thread I think as well as on the HE yahoo lists)

I havent heard any rumours to do with gypsies/minority groups - only to do with a boy in the Wrexham area (Sion D) who died partly due to neglect.
Google Wrexham sion d and you can read the pdf account.

Fairly obvious they should see it as two separate issues - education and welfare. But the WAG would obviously prefer to lump it all together.

ThreadWatcher · 15/09/2012 22:27

If it becomes law in Wales, England wont be far off......... :(

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