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Thinking about HE

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bronze · 12/03/2011 12:02

We are seriously considering this for ds1, possible for ds2 and I'm worried dd who seems to be doing fine in reception will feel neglected.

I have so many questions and I can never remember them all at the same time.

Before it has any chance of happening though I need to pass my driving test.

Anyway my first question is-
I've heard people talking about being ahead of their schooled peers or even starting school and being way ahead. How do you know how well they are doing? Whether you are teaching them enough? etc

I would plan to do a mix of set lessons and learning through life skills.
People who teach just by getting on with life who then put their children forward for exams how do you make sure they know what they need to know to pass them. They may be wonderfully intelligent, know masses, but exams?

How do you cope with age ranges?
Also what about having preschool age children too?
Do you struggle with behaviour in the way that children can play up more for mum than other people?

I've heard of deschooling? What does this consist of?

I have loads of questions but I will need to come back to this thread as I contemplate them. I hope you don't mind me gatecrashing your haven.

Oh last one, what gave you the confidence to know you can do better than school? I have no qualifications and worry about my ability to teach them.

Thank you

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Toffeefudgecake · 12/03/2011 12:44

Bronze - I certainly can't answer all your questions, as I'm new to HE, but I'm sure some of the experienced Home Edders will be along shortly. However, I can say that, with regard to your last point, I think it is unlikely that you can do worse than school. At school my son was in a class of 30, bored and miserable. At home, he gets one-to-one attention and he can learn because he isn't bored or unhappy.

I only home educate one of my two children, but I know there are lots of people here who home ed all of theirs. My youngest is in reception and, apart from a wobble last week, he is doing fine there so far. I have to say that I would find it hard to home educate him as well, but that is because my oldest is enjoying having me to himself and gets jealous when his brother is at home during home ed time.

Why are you considering HE for your oldest, out of interest? I have just started home educating my oldest son (11) because he was so miserable at school. Because he wants to go to secondary school in September, we are sticking to the National Curriculum KS2 for Maths and English, but other than that he can do what he likes. He wanted to do a topic book on 'fish', which has now turned into one on, more specifically, 'deep-sea creatures'. He was really bored at school and I'm hoping that choosing his own topic and other things to study will give him back a sense of excitement about learning. We have promised him a trip to the London Aquarium as part of his topic, which he is very excited about. This is particularly good because he gets very anxious about trips usually.

He is just beginning to suggest other things to learn too. For instance, he said he wants to do some cooking with me.

What I can say, with certainty, is that I am finding being at home with my son a lot easier than I thought it would be. It's actually surprisingly relaxing. He is old enough to do things independently, of course, so that helps. However, this is mainly because he is more relaxed at home and that makes him easier to be with. He does play up with me sometimes, of course (after being unbelievably obedient for the first week), but he hasn't been too bad.

Anyway, sorry I can't answer more of your questions. I'm sure you'll get more replies in due course.

ommmward · 12/03/2011 14:04

"I've heard people talking about being ahead of their schooled peers or even starting school and being way ahead. How do you know how well they are doing? Whether you are teaching them enough?"

I don't think about my childrens' development in relation to other children. Every child learns at their own pace. In some respects, my children are horribly behind the norm for their age, I guess, in others way ahead. But being out of the school straitjacket, it simply doesn't matter. I know that my children are learning according to their age, aptitude, ability and any Special Needs (which is the legal requirement - even though many schools don't achieve it for the children in their care) - they are getting a truly personalised education.

"People who teach just by getting on with life who then put their children forward for exams how do you make sure they know what they need to know to pass them. They may be wonderfully intelligent, know masses, but exams?"

Because if and when one of my children decides they want to do an exam, we'll help them prepare for it.

"How do you cope with age ranges? Also what about having preschool age children too?"

It's just a family! The age range is what it is. Just as in family life in general, conversations happen on different levels for different members of the family.

"Do you struggle with behaviour in the way that children can play up more for mum than other people?"

Yes, I do on a bad day. But that's more to do with my failings than those of my children.

"I've heard of deschooling? What does this consist of?"

When your children come out of school, allow at least a month per year spent in the institutional system before you try to do anything academic at all. Treat it like an extended summer holiday. They have a huge amount of self-confidence, intellectual self-reliance and self-direction to regain.

"Oh last one, what gave you the confidence to know you can do better than school? I have no qualifications and worry about my ability to teach them."

You have the best possible qualifications. 1) you are their parent 2) you want to spend time with them. This whole professionalisation-of-education thing is a massive case of Emperor's new clothes. Your children did not need someone with a PGCE to tell them how to walk or talk or use a spoon or put their pyjamas on. But there is a huge industry based on persuading parents that they are not expert to help their children with learning what those children want and need to learn (I consider those two things to be the same - our approach is entirely child led, and there is almost nothing that would look to an outsider like academic learning)

SDeuchars · 12/03/2011 14:10

I've heard people talking about being ahead of their schooled peers or even starting school and being way ahead. How do you know how well they are doing? Whether you are teaching them enough? etc

I've EHEd my two all the way through (now 19 and 16). I did not worry about how they were doing until we needed it (when DD decided to try school for a term at Y5). Then we bought workbooks and KS2 SATs papers and she tried them. As I expected, her maths was way ahead but her writing was behind. At home, neither of these mattered.

You don't say anything about ages. If, for example, you are thinking about putting DS1 back into school at Y7 and he is currently in Y5, you could do whatever you want until early 2012. Then, as preparation for school in September, you could work through books etc. and try some SATs papers to know where his weak areas are.

^I would plan to do a mix of set lessons and learning through life skills.
People who teach just by getting on with life who then put their children forward for exams how do you make sure they know what they need to know to pass them. They may be wonderfully intelligent, know masses, but exams?^

People who want to do exams start by downloading the syllabus and past papers from the exam board website. They work their way through the syllabus using websites, books and other resources and using the past papers to check that the DC is at the correct level. You'll find more info at www.home-education-exams.org.uk and its associated email list.

^How do you cope with age ranges?
Also what about having preschool age children too?^

This is not really an issue if you do "life" because you are not trying to maintain "lessons" at different levels - each child does whatever they are doing at the level they can manage. If a DC wants/needs a quiet place to do writing etc. then you achieve that however works for your family.

Do you struggle with behaviour in the way that children can play up more for mum than other people?

IME, this is not an issue once everyone is used to being together all the time. It is a more likely issue when there are alternative authorities (teachers) that can be played off against the parents.

I've heard of deschooling? What does this consist of?

Giving a child time to lose the need to be told what to do and regain the joy in learning that he or she had naturally as a small child. What it looks like will vary from child to child. An older child who has had a traumatic time in school may take months to regain confidence and trust in themselves. During that time, they may need to play Pokemon obsessively for six weeks, watch the same DVD over and over, run around outside, etc. It is not a problem if they do nothing that looks like school. Some children, however, get very anxious without the structure of the school day and may need to keep something that looks like it until they regain confidence.

bronze · 12/03/2011 14:18

Thank you. Lots to mull over

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bronze · 15/03/2011 09:42

I know this is a bit of a nonquestion because it will vary so much but how much money do people allocate towards HE. Whetehr thats books, petrol, entrance fees etc

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EmmaBGoode · 15/03/2011 09:46

I homeschool my DS and we use K12. It's fantastic. My DS has just completed a year's Maths course in 2 months. You can go at your own pace, though. It is extremely well-organised and fun to teach. I would highly recommend it.

Oh, and I think 'de-schooling' is a load of bollocks. Just my opinion, mind.

bronze · 25/03/2011 10:10

The reason I was comparing to peers was this may be a shorter term thing dependent on housing situations. I wouldn't want to make it harder for them to fit back in the school system.

I can see how deschooling might be needed. Ds1 probably wouldn't but ds2 would at a guess.

Emma will look at that thank you.

Still have my own bit of learning to do first. First driving lesson, a week on saturday. Scared? Me?

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