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Is there a Siblu close to a train station?

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Katymac · 15/01/2010 20:28

I mean easily close

DH is being a bit funny about driving in France....& tbh I don't want to have an argument

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muminlondon · 15/01/2010 22:36

I have been doing research on campsites in the south of France - not going with Siblu, but they have one called Les Sables du Midi about 10 miles from Beziers in Languedoc. That's a 4 hour TGV trip from Paris. It can't be difficult to get a taxi from there it also looks like there are local buses every hour or so.

Katymac · 15/01/2010 22:44

Oh that is interesting

Are trains expensive in France do you know? I get very cheap UK trains

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muminlondon · 15/01/2010 23:09

It's not much more expensive than flying by Easyjet - adult return London to Beziers can be had for £200 (though you might have to book two separate trips (e.g. London to Paris, Paris to Beziers), and children's fares are much more discounted. I'm thinking of taking the train there and flying back.

You can't book the TGV more than 90 days in advance, however (Eurostar is 120 days in advance). I've been looking at Eurostar website and European train website run by SNCF

I sound a bit like a train geek don't I?!

Katymac · 15/01/2010 23:14

Train Geeks are good

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Katymac · 15/01/2010 23:16

Bit fed up of planes atm & trains are greener

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muminlondon · 15/01/2010 23:31

I'd also love to do without a hire car for the holiday if possible - train stations are much nearer civilisation than airports. I couldn't face a 12-hour road trip with a carsick dd (not that I would be driving).

mand1963 · 16/01/2010 10:20

KM

Train Geek here. (Mand's DH)

None of the Siblu parks are within walking distance of a Train station as far as I can see.

The nearest are probably those in Argeles (languedoc) and Frejus (provence) - both are a few Kms from a station. The others in Languedoc, those in Vendee / Charente and La Reserve in Aquitane are 15-20 kms from nearest stations.

For all train info on travel to France (and anywhere else) the best bet is the excellent www.seat61.com

Cheap fares are available, (SNCF version is called PREMS) but BOOK EARLY. They only go up as you get nearer the date, not down.

Look at going via Lille or via Paris (former is easier but far less choice so cheap fares harder to find). Also look at booking both as one through ticket on Eurostar or in two diffrent parts (lon > Paris/Lille on Eurostar and Paris/Lille to final station on voyages-sncf. (You still have to change TRAINS (they are the same trains in either case) the difference is whether you have one ticket or, in effect, two separate unrelated bookings IYSWIM)

If you want more info on a specific destination then post back and I'll try to help!

Katymac · 16/01/2010 10:47

Oh wow, that is very kind of you

It all depends upon prices tbh - are they as horrific as they are here?

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ilovepeppapig · 16/01/2010 11:33

hi

i know you said you would prefer train to plane but i use th siblu site le lac de reves and fly into montpelliar. i use a taxi to camp site and it is about 10 minutes.

we use this site because i (i am a single parent) dont like the idea of driving. We spend all week on site and it is fine.

we fly ryan air and book early to get cheap flights (if you can go mid week to mid week) the flights can be as little as £20 each way per person

Portofino · 16/01/2010 18:23

Agree that Lac Des Reves is very near Airport. It is probably reasonable walking distance to get the bus to Montpellier/Beach, but they don't run that frequently. Mind you, the pool is great, there is a decent shop and restaurant so it would be more than possible to have a great time without going off site.

DecorHate · 16/01/2010 18:28

I know a couple of families who have taken the TGV to the south of France and had a positive experience - but they both hired cars while they were there. There was a thread recently where someone decided to fly to La Rochelle (you could probably get a train there too) and then was going to get a taxi to the Ile de Re - which apparently is small enough to make do with bicycles while you are there

Katymac · 17/01/2010 13:54

This sounds very interesting........more research needed

Loving the La Rochelle idea

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DanAtSiblu · 18/01/2010 11:49

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mand1963 · 18/01/2010 21:14

KM

Sorry I missed Domain du Dugny!

Onzain is fairly well served from Paris (every hour or two , takes 2 hours)

Prices vary, as they do here on trains (and indeed on Airlines). La Rochelle, for example, can be done for as little as £400 from London and back all in for 2 Adults and 2 Children(via Paris, no Lille options for La R I'm afraid) but these fares need to be dug out, and may be more difficult / impossible on say Saturdays on Summer. Did I mention BOOK EARLY?? and www.seat61.com Fares then rise in stages up to £1000 or more for the 4 of you for that trip. Onzain is more like £300 (via Paris and book in 2 stages) with the Paris to Onzain bit being easy to get cheaper fares as it's not on TGVs, it's the Eurostar bit that you need to book early here for, again can rise to a lot more than that.

Eurstar and SNCF TGV pricing similar to airlines in many ways now (although no 'last minute' bargains and the train pricing is far more transparent than budget airlines).

Main advantages of train vs flying are the much better general experience (almost part of the holiday!) especially with kids, the transparent pricing with no little 'add-ons', the lack of baggage restrictions and security hassles and of course the environmental angle.

Main disadvantages are length of time it takes to anywhere other than Paris/Lille and from anywhere outside SE England (it's a whole day travelling really) changing 1 or 2 times (especially if you need to cross Paris with luggage AND kids*) and effort and pre planning required to get the cheap fares vs airline websites who make it easy to book flights. (If the railways got thier act together, increased options from Lille and got a decent website and pricing structure they'd clean up. Maybe one day....)

  • The transfer from Nord (Eurostars) to and from Montparnasse (TGVs to Brittany & South West France including La Rochelle ) by metro Line 4 is particularly frustrating. After 14 stops on the often crowded metro, you arrive at the ironically named Montparnasse Bienvenue mtero station. The 'welcome' in this case being the fact that the metro station itself is bloody miles from the mainline station, with various corridors, travelators and escalators to negotiate. Ok if you're on your own, but with holiday luggage, tired kids and tight connections it isn't fun! (take a taxi, or better still, ensure you leave plenty of time). Nord to Gare de Lyon (TGVs to South of France, Provence/Languedoc etc.) by contrast is easy, 2 stops on RER line D and much less walking. Nord to Austerlitz (for Onzain) not too bad either, line 5 with not too much walking.

Anyway, back to the train vs plane to France debate....
Problems, and in particular level of contingency if things go wrong is an interesting topic. Trains aren't perfect, as anyone who caught Eurostar just before Xmas will testify, strikes do happen and SNCF customer care is as variable as you would expect from a French state owned organisation, ranging from quite good to the verbal equivalent of a Gallic shrug of the shoulders. On the other hand the reliability and punctuality of the trains is, I reckon, better than short haul flights and the amount of people posting on the Internet with horror stories about budget airlines (one in particular!) and how they treat their 'customers' when things go wrong tells it's own story I would say...

We've done all sorts over the years, trains, planes, motorail (when it still existed) and driving. They've all got pros and cons, but all else being equal I'd take the train every time.

Good luck anyway!

Katymac · 19/01/2010 14:43

Thanks for that - I will have to read & process when I'm not at work....so much information (& the prices )

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DanAtSiblu · 21/01/2010 09:59

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LadyPeterWimsey · 21/01/2010 10:10

I know you are thinking about trains but all 6 of us flew to Beziers last May for £60 total return, and took a taxi to the Siblu campsite. I think our bicycle hire was more expensive for the week than our travel to France.

It was a great park (a few noise issues but the pool was fantastic) and we had a great holiday.

mand1963 · 21/01/2010 22:02

Dan

No problems. Just ensure that you give Mumsnet a plug and that you also recommend anyone interested in researching train travel should look at www.seat61.com

LPW

£60 return for 6 people is an amazing fare; well done for finding it and getting a great holiday so cheaply!

All

However....

Comparison of costs between various travel modes (especially when involving budget airlines and rail) is a bit of a bugbear of mine...

So apologies in advance; if you want to avoid the long rant, look away now

In the interests of research I've just tried booking 6 people (2 adults, 4 children)return London to Beziers in May with a 'budget' airline (Ryanair). The absolute cheapest fare I can find, travelling midweek out of school holidays (with a headline grabbing £14.99 fare) is £300. That's 6 fares (children cost the same as adults, unlike the train where they are cheaper, infants cost unlike the train where they are free). Total fare actually comprises £180 'fare', £60 'online check in' (presumably unavoidable) and £60 'admin fee' also presumably unavoidable. (The train fares don't have either of these add on 'extras').

One thing I have noticed since having children is that it's useful, when going on holiday, to take some luggage with you. If you want to take some luggage , say 6 x small (

LadyPeterWimsey · 22/01/2010 10:22

Hey Ant, this is impressive research. You would get on really well with my DH who is also a travel geek expert.

I think the way DH got the fares (obviously travelling midweek, although that week started during the May half term holiday) was some special offer (1p flights or something equally ridiculous). We travelled only with hand luggage (weighed obsessively - we even took our scales with us to weigh for the flight home), we did not do priority boarding, we flew from Bristol airport, which is by no means our closest, and we paid with the only debit card that doesn't attract a ridiculous fee. I don't know why we didn't pay admin fees or online check-in, though.

All things being equal, we would much rather take the train (and so would those people who had to put up with our children on the flight!) and we are not huge fans of Ryanair in all their sneakiness and what seems to be utter contempt for the sucker customer. In this case however it was the difference between having a holiday in the sun or not. It will be interesting to compare driving costs as we have been offered a free house in the South of France this year and we think that we have to drive.

BTW, we paid for the holiday park with Tesco Clubcard vouchers, so that was pretty cheap too. Shame the price of food in France was so horrific or we could have posted an entry for the cheapest campsite holiday ever!

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