To absolutely hate flying.

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Does anyone else on here hate flying?
I do it to get to nice places, but have about 3 glasses of wine before I get on the plane.

Secondly, I hate the way people are so jam packed into planes. I'd happily pay more for wider seats, longer leg room, etc.

Did you know you can actually do this?

I’ve given up. I’ve tried everything. Alcohol, Diazepam, hypnotherapy, NLP, CBT, and the Virgin Fear of Flying course (twice). Nothing has worked. I just get the train now, and stop off at a couple of interesting places en route, and include it in the holiday.

I don’t mind flying it’s the behaviour of some other passengers I don’t like.

Agree 100% I usually avoid sitting in the middle seat but the flight was overbooked and it was a short 2 hour flight. We had only been in the air a few minutes when I felt this mans hand agaist my thigh. I jammed my elbow hard into his chest and began yelling at him that he was a filthy pervert. He shot out of his seat on the aisle which I immediately movfed into. I told him he was no way sitting by me agtain. The cabin crew came up and found him a deilghtful seat next to the loo. Every time I passed him to go I told the people sitting near he was pervert and made him an object of attention.. It was not a comfortable flight for him and I enjoyed the power trip. I was in my 40s and packed quite a hard punch back then.

I'm scared of flying so much that I've only seen my family abroad two times in over 20 years. You're definitely not alone OP

Yes I am what?
A law abiding citizen who has 3 small glasses of wine before / during a flight?
I barely use my phone in day to day life, I am not a fan of screen time.
I don't avoid cars. I have been driving for 20 years and never had so much as a parking ticket.
Who are you to judge me?

Me too
I hate the faff
The waiting
The delays
the noise
Not being able to step outside
Will they have a problem with my bag
Will I get through security ( my local airport is crap and people who turn up hours ahead still miss flights because security is sooo bad)

@BadbadbunnyThe queue is shorter for business! The business cabins are smaller! You board with BA as group 2. There’s only first and special needs ahead of you. Everyone else is behind! Then you get off pretty quickly too and get to passport control before most others. It’s significantly better. Then there are drinks coming round so what’s not to like? Overall flying isn’t wonderful and a means to an end, but you can make it more palatable.

I like flying itself, but I find airports and all the rigmarole of checking in, security, making sure you have all the right paperwork and are where you need to be on time incredibly stressful and anxiety provoking. My OH and I always end up bickering. I could do with a wee benzo to relax me during those times.

I feel exactly the same - I used to force myself to do it for the sake of taking the kids on holiday but now I honestly don’t think I could get on an aeroplane. It’s the only thing I have a totally irrational fear of. I’ve unpicked the reason and it’s that I have absolutely no control. I don’t particularly like being a passenger in a car either.

I was getting anxious about flying and then was at Stansted on 9/11 when the news was coming in and people were watching the towers coming down on widescreens while waiting for their flights. Full on anxiety after that, associating flying with risk of death. Only remedied by a lot of mindfulness and working through this bookwww.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/products/flying-with-confidence-book-patricia-furness-smith-9780091947859#9789704110353

Certain airlines generally have a smoother take off and landing. I avoid Ryanair like the plague! Im still a nervous wreck but im better than I used to be. I dont to pass on the fear to my kids. So think internal panic and profusely sweating

I hate it. Intrusive thoughts make it a very frightening experience for me.

Yes, I know it’s safer than being in a car and that the crew all want to get home safely. Makes no difference to my fear unfortunately because it isn’t rational. 🫤

I adore flying. Every second of it, take off, being up above the clouds, landing. I get excited as soon as I can see the airport en route.

Flying excites and and amazes and exhilarates me, even after 40+ years of doing it. I very much treat it as part of the trip and something to enjoy, rather than the disdainful "flying bus" attitude (which I don't think helps anyone).

But if I hated it as much as some people on this thread do, I would use alternative transport and visit other places in this beautiful world, not martyr myself into it and then sit there shitting myself the whole time.

I don't mind flying. I'm not keen on airports and all the faff that entails.

My ds is training to be a commercial pilot. The amount of training/exams and medical exams they have makes me feel much safer in the air, knowing how well trained they are.

I hate the thought of it so much I haven't flown since I was about 7 years old. I'm now in my 50's.
Its bus, train or cruise ships.

I hate flying and not sure I can put myself through it again. I’m looking into travelling around Europe by train. So much more relaxing.

I really don't like it I haven't flown in almost 20 years now. I probably will at some point but I prefer to avoid it if I can.

I hate it too. It ruins every holiday for me as I'm always thinking about having to get back on the plane to get back. Wine doesn't do it for me, I have had diazepam before many years ago but they won't prescribe it for flying now. The more I do the better I get though, to some extent. I used to be a hyperventilating crying mess and my heart would race for the whole time but I can manage the panic a bit better now as I've got used to the bumps and turns a bit more.

Hate flying, but addicted to travel. I wish there was a train all the way to Africa or Central America 😥

I too want the extra space. So much so that I just wont fly on a flight over 4 hours on anything other than premium economy any more . It has reduced the number of flights I can take in a year due to cost but it is worth it

I dont have any fear of flying though . In fact I quite enjoy the actual flight on a long haul day flight if I have a premium economy aisle seat.

For me it is all about comfort. So I hate the queuing and hassle at the airport and being treated like cattle, and I hate the lack of space on the flight and having to ask someone to move so I can use the loo etc.

I absolutely HATE flying... What helps me:

1. Lovefly. They are amazing, really helped me - I still listen to their podcasts. I done their course twice.
2. Medication. Beta blockers or Diazepam.
3. Alcohol (not too much though) and deffo not mixed with neds
4. Being tired when flying so you fall asleep (works for me on long haul flights, sometimes I'm so tired I dont have the energy to fear)

I feel more vulnerable on a plane than I do in any other form of travel. Not sure why since it’s still the safest way to travel - might be because I do it so rarely (twice a year). I try to divert my thoughts into becoming immersed in podcasts or music I listen to. Booking the window seat for the short solo flights I go on also helps me feel a bit safer.

I’m not keen, but I like my holidays. Like a few others on this thread I take a diazepam. One 2 mg tablet does the trick for me now, just takes the edge off. I don’t drink alcohol when flying. I wouldn’t want to fly more than 3-4 hours though, but I’m fine with that.

Loathe it.

The holiday would have to be spectacular to make it worth it.

For me it's control, I don't feel safe if I am not in charge, same reason I am a terrible car passenger!

I avoid it as much as possible. I also am gobsmacked that my new GP has told me in no uncertain terms that she can not prescribe diazepam under any circumstances due to new guidelines, particularly flying is flying is a 'choice'. No it's fucking not for many of us, it was also a lifesaver for my back spasms. 5mg was enough to calm me perfectly. I'm so angry about this as it was the only thing that got me on a plane with my kids and still is. What is the point of a drug being 'available' but then not allowing the people who need it, to use it. Yes it's addictive-but in 40 years that I've used it on a careful, ad-hoc basis, and I have not had so much as a hint of addiction. I had to change GP's because of a house move-precious GP prescribed as and when I needed. Anyone else experiencing this 'ban'?