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Vegetarian food in Italy is awful!

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Teakettletrio · 23/10/2025 20:47

We are five days into our trip. The place is beautiful, the scenery is stunning, the sights are fascinating. BUT the food is awful. We’ve had various combinations of cheese and tomatoes for 5 days straight. I’m starting to lose it. The supermarkets are full of gorgeous looking vegetables but all we get offered is spaghetti pomoforo, gnocchi pomodoro or margarita pizza. We got all excited yesterday as we thought we had found a restaurant with a veggie burger, but it turned out to be a potato croquet in a bun. Is it just us? Have we been unlucky?

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TattooStan · 24/10/2025 07:09

That sounds odd. I'm not vegetarian, but love pizza with olives and artichokes on top. And on one trip I had a delicious cashew nut pesto with homemade spaghetti. Courgette flowers stuffed with ricotta and then fried are 😋. Baked aubergine (parmigiano melanzane) is a classic.

TattooStan · 24/10/2025 07:12

TattooStan · 24/10/2025 07:09

That sounds odd. I'm not vegetarian, but love pizza with olives and artichokes on top. And on one trip I had a delicious cashew nut pesto with homemade spaghetti. Courgette flowers stuffed with ricotta and then fried are 😋. Baked aubergine (parmigiano melanzane) is a classic.

I now see from other posters that cheese is often not vegetarian. That sucks. I had no idea. Bread, olives and tomatoes it is then!

RampantIvy · 24/10/2025 07:39

When we were in Sicily we found that they had a verson of ricotta that wasn't vegetarian. The antipastos we ate had a lot of vegetarian foods though.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 24/10/2025 07:48

I’m vegetarian so I won’t eat the cheese obviously unless I could absolutely verify that it wasn’t made with animal derived rennet. I find Italy an unmitigated nightmare for food.

CurlewKate · 24/10/2025 07:52

Those pesky foreigners not speaking English and gatekeeping all the vegetarian food!

Clearinguptheclutter · 24/10/2025 08:04

Following as a mostly vegetarian family wanting to plan a holiday in Italy! Sounds like Greece might be a better bet

we’ve found Netherlands, Denmark and Germany good, France awful, Spain and Portugal actually ok but only because they are used to British vegetarians

RampantIvy · 24/10/2025 08:08

Clearinguptheclutter · 24/10/2025 08:04

Following as a mostly vegetarian family wanting to plan a holiday in Italy! Sounds like Greece might be a better bet

we’ve found Netherlands, Denmark and Germany good, France awful, Spain and Portugal actually ok but only because they are used to British vegetarians

Edited

DD is vegerarian and loves Greece and the food. It really is very vegetarian friendly.

puffballsleeves · 24/10/2025 08:12

In Naples and Southern Italy I was spoilt for choice. When I went to Puglia, it was the worst.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 24/10/2025 08:21

I‘m laughing at the potato croquette in a bun masquerading as a vegetarian burger!

I can just see the chef and owner of the restaurant having a conflab about the menu.
And them saying

‘We need a vegetarian option here.
‘Yeah, but what?
‘Vegetarians like potatoes, don’t they?’
’Yeah. Definitely.
‘Let’s have a think about something original…something unique’
’They like veggie burgers, don’t they?’
’Yeah!’
’Are you thinking what i’m thinking?’
‘Go on’
’Put a potato in a bun! The vegetarians will love that!’
’But let’s make it a croquette, though. We’ve gotta class it up a little bit’
’For sure’.

PurpleThistle7 · 24/10/2025 08:58

If you are strictly vegetarian (allowing that most dietary requirements come on a spectrum), Italy will be really, really tricky. Most of the soups and such start with a meat broth, a lot of the cheese won't be vegetarian and they put parmesan on a lot of things.

Totally unrelated but I have a serious shellfish allergy and had a horrible time in Hong Kong. They have this fish sprinkle garnish they put on often and it has shellfish in it. It was almost impossible to ensure any food didn't have it on there. I ended up eating a lot of granola bars as I just couldn't seem to get that bit of information across properly.

crackofdoom · 24/10/2025 09:32

Maraudingmarauders · 24/10/2025 07:05

I agree with what you say about eating locally and things just not being identified as vegetarian BUT on your list they would as a minimum have to exclude:
-parmigiana melanzane
-spaghetti alla nerano
as they will have Parmesan. But yes as a PP said as well, I’d just ask for amendments - tell them no Parmesan as in many dishes it will just be on the top.

Italy is famous for cucina povera, which means many of their traditional dishes should be simple with only a few ingredients. They also delight in side dishes which are often just grilled vegetables with olive oil and salt. A selection of those, like tapas, with a central dish of spaghetti pomodoro is my idea of heaven (and I’m not veggie).

To the pp in Sicily eating bland tomatoes, you’re eating in the wrong place.

I found Bacoli on Google Maps! It looks like a chi chi suburb of Naples- very beautiful, but also the kind of place where Napoletani who have done well for themselves go for a nice dinner and a spot of people watching, amirite? So they'll be wanting stuff like seafood or steak, not the pasta and chick peas mamma raised them on.

Nonetheless, I found a few places with veggie offerings (Il Tufo Giallo looked good), usually as antipasti and primi piatti rather than secondi piatti (main courses), which did seem uniformly meaty. But you can make a fine meal out of antipasti and primi.

A quick Google search around Naples itself found more joy- the simpler and cheaper and more back street the restaurant, the more likely it was to have a good list of meat free primi.

(I have to admit though, I'm a bad vegetarian. I eat Parmesan, and I don't ask questions about the stock).

I found Greece similar in some ways- I remember tourist restaurants being all meat fish meat fish, and you had to go to holes in the wall in the back streets to find the big pans of bean stew and stuffed vegetables.

RedToothBrush · 24/10/2025 09:33

reptilemad1985 · 24/10/2025 04:40

Hoppinggreen · Yesterday 21:29
DD is veggie and doesn't eat fish either but did really well in Lombardy a couple of years ago. Much better than Germany or Spain.

Veggie and doesn't eat fish either?!

That suggests that veggies sometimes eat fish. That's the problem. The illiteracy.

Mademetoxic · 24/10/2025 09:39

RampantIvy · 24/10/2025 08:08

DD is vegerarian and loves Greece and the food. It really is very vegetarian friendly.

I definitely agree as a vegetarian too!

crackofdoom · 24/10/2025 09:46

I really need to stop researching things for other people's holidays, but it's one of my favourite hobbies! 😆

However, I simply searched for "Ristorante Vegetariano" on Google Maps. As I half expected, there is nothing in Bacoli, but Naples itself has a plethora. They all look quite hip and funky too, which I'm sure the teens will appreciate. So it's time to hop on a train for an evening out in the city!!

When eating in Bacoli, maybe stick mostly to pizzerias?

pondscaters · 24/10/2025 09:56

@Teakettletrio
I think part of the problem is expecting “main courses” to have what a British person would class as a variety of vegetables.
Italians usually prefer “contorni” because their meals tend to be compartmentalised. They wouldn’t put a load of vegetables on the same plate as meat or fish say. They really wouldn’t want it touching.
Their dishes generally, although there are exceptions, prefer to focus on a singular vegetable at a time to be able to taste its flavour, so in traditional food you just won’t find a mish mash of “veggies”, rather different separate vegetables sides.

It’s Autumn now, so the vegetable dishes are completely different to summer vegetables. No one eats courgette flowers or fresh tomatoes after the summer ends if they want the best. We’re now onto pumpkins and chestnuts and such like. Italian food is seasonal, and there’s more cooking, building up of flavour etc in the autumn/ winter dishes and this means more contamination from meat produce.

I am Italian and live in Italy. There are a wide variety of vegetable dishes available, but they are made to cater for the local population who love eating vegetables, rather than being for ethical vegetarians. This means that in general they won’t compromise on flavour and suggest to alter a traditional vegetable based dish because it has some cheese in it or has been exposed to meat sources during its preparation, or has an added anchovy etc and would rather not serve the dish at all than serve it in a sub standard fashion. It may come across as food snobbery, but it’s cultural love of their cuisine in the same way many British people would prefer to not see their language butchered or dumbed down.

You can obviously say you don’t eat meat or fish, but if you are strictly vegetarian you would also have to specify that you don’t eat cheese either seeing as the majority of cheeses won’t be ok.

Basically it’s not something a generic Italian restaurant has to deal with. It’s really only US/UK tourists that have a number of ethical vegetarians. In larger cities and major tourist spots there will be restaurants which market for and make a name for themselves, and focus on creating delicious strictly vegetarian and vegan food, but not so much in local towns.

Katiesaidthat · 24/10/2025 10:00

Timeforabitofpeace · 23/10/2025 21:35

I’ve been this year and there was plenty of. Courgette flowers stuffed with soft cheese and a risotto dish with uncommon local herbs were both delicious.

I thought vegetarians didn´t eat cheese. Cheese is from animals?

RedToothBrush · 24/10/2025 10:01

Katiesaidthat · 24/10/2025 10:00

I thought vegetarians didn´t eat cheese. Cheese is from animals?

You are getting confused between vegetarians and vegans.

Vegetarians will eat products from animals but not the animals themselves but vegans won't.

Cheese is sometimes made from products containing animals but not always.

crackofdoom · 24/10/2025 10:03

Katiesaidthat · 24/10/2025 10:00

I thought vegetarians didn´t eat cheese. Cheese is from animals?

That's vegans 🙄

(aside from the animal rennet debate. Some Italian cheese is made using animal rennet)

Katiesaidthat · 24/10/2025 10:05

RedToothBrush · 24/10/2025 10:01

You are getting confused between vegetarians and vegans.

Vegetarians will eat products from animals but not the animals themselves but vegans won't.

Cheese is sometimes made from products containing animals but not always.

I see.
Separately, cheese for me comes from animals, the "false cheese" should go by another name...but that´s another thread.

crackofdoom · 24/10/2025 10:05

pondscaters · 24/10/2025 09:56

@Teakettletrio
I think part of the problem is expecting “main courses” to have what a British person would class as a variety of vegetables.
Italians usually prefer “contorni” because their meals tend to be compartmentalised. They wouldn’t put a load of vegetables on the same plate as meat or fish say. They really wouldn’t want it touching.
Their dishes generally, although there are exceptions, prefer to focus on a singular vegetable at a time to be able to taste its flavour, so in traditional food you just won’t find a mish mash of “veggies”, rather different separate vegetables sides.

It’s Autumn now, so the vegetable dishes are completely different to summer vegetables. No one eats courgette flowers or fresh tomatoes after the summer ends if they want the best. We’re now onto pumpkins and chestnuts and such like. Italian food is seasonal, and there’s more cooking, building up of flavour etc in the autumn/ winter dishes and this means more contamination from meat produce.

I am Italian and live in Italy. There are a wide variety of vegetable dishes available, but they are made to cater for the local population who love eating vegetables, rather than being for ethical vegetarians. This means that in general they won’t compromise on flavour and suggest to alter a traditional vegetable based dish because it has some cheese in it or has been exposed to meat sources during its preparation, or has an added anchovy etc and would rather not serve the dish at all than serve it in a sub standard fashion. It may come across as food snobbery, but it’s cultural love of their cuisine in the same way many British people would prefer to not see their language butchered or dumbed down.

You can obviously say you don’t eat meat or fish, but if you are strictly vegetarian you would also have to specify that you don’t eat cheese either seeing as the majority of cheeses won’t be ok.

Basically it’s not something a generic Italian restaurant has to deal with. It’s really only US/UK tourists that have a number of ethical vegetarians. In larger cities and major tourist spots there will be restaurants which market for and make a name for themselves, and focus on creating delicious strictly vegetarian and vegan food, but not so much in local towns.

I lived in Italy for 3 years, and became adept at surgically picking small bits of meat out of my dinner, and not asking too many questions about things like parmesan and stock 😆

Mademetoxic · 24/10/2025 10:09

Katiesaidthat · 24/10/2025 10:00

I thought vegetarians didn´t eat cheese. Cheese is from animals?

Vegetarians (myself) do not eat meat, fish or anything like gelatine, or rennet which is found in some cheeses.
Vegetarians eat eggs and dairy.

Vegans do not eat anything meat, fish, dairy, eggs.

People who say they are vegetarian but 'eat fish' ARE NOT VEGETARIAN.

crackofdoom · 24/10/2025 10:15

I'm now fully into planning an imaginary holiday in the Bay of Naples. I've always wanted to see the temple in Pozzuoli that mysteriously rises and falls, and the Campi Flegrei- who knew they had a Metro stop?!

Sgtmajormummy · 24/10/2025 10:22

Yes, unless specifically stated by the restaurant, even vegetable soup or mushroom risotto are likely to have meat-based stock in them.

Rusalina · 24/10/2025 10:31

This thread surprised me as a vegetarian, because I absolutely adore Italy and love the food whenever I’m there…

However then I also remembered that when I go to Italy, I do have to deliberately forget that Parmesan isn’t vegetarian 😬 I also don’t ask questions about stock etc on the basis that what I don’t know can’t hurt me…

However, I’ve never encountered bits of meat in vegetarian dishes as other PP have. Perhaps I’ve just been lucky!

DiscoBob · 24/10/2025 10:41

reptilemad1985 · 24/10/2025 04:40

Hoppinggreen · Yesterday 21:29
DD is veggie and doesn't eat fish either but did really well in Lombardy a couple of years ago. Much better than Germany or Spain.

It's the 'either' they object to. If someone is veggie you don't need to say they don't eat fish either.

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