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Japan (and possibly a day in China)

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niadainud · 01/08/2025 22:21

I would be grateful for answers to any or all of the questions below!

  1. I've found some great value tickets with Air China. Is it ok as an airline? I can cope with it not being the most luxurious travel experience, so long as it's basically safe and reliable.
  2. I don't want to be over-ambitious, so am planning to spend roughly a week in Tokyo and about a week in Kyoto/Osaka with possibly some day trips. I'll probably be doing the trip solo and it's quite tiring working everything out on your own, hence mainly doing those two cities. I realise I'll only be getting a flavour of the country, but would I be missing anywhere absolutely essential that I couldn't accomplish as a day trip if I plan it like that?
  3. Should I be looking for any specific type of accommodation? I.e. in Morocco I would recommend a Riad rather than a hotel. A ryokan? Capsule hotel?
  4. Anything amazing that isn't on all the lists of obvious must-sees?
  5. Will I manage with very basic Japanese? Is it worth trying to learn hiragana? Basic phrases? I did a short course and am planning to continue with Duolingo until I go (probably in October).
  6. I'm a bit confused about onsens - do you also stay overnight?
  7. Any other tips, like anything particular I ought to take?
  8. If I do the journey I'm planning I will have a 20-hour stopover in Beijing so I'm hoping to go into the city for a few hours and then stay overnight in a hotel. It seems I can do this without need a visa. Can anyone confirm this, or confirm I've got it wrong? (Please only answer this one if you're absolutely positive one way or the other!)

Thank you!

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OneAquaGoose · 02/08/2025 18:54

We flew to Japan and back from Hong Kong with Air China a few years ago. Every flight was delayed and hardly anyone spoke any English at Beijing airport. My DH speaks two other Chinese languages so could just about get the jist of what the airport staff were saying in Mandarin. He ended up having to help out what felt like half of the flight from LHR who had either missed or were in danger of missing connections. So in short, we wouldn’t use them again unless it was a case of flying first class with them for the price of economy with BA etc.

OneAquaGoose · 02/08/2025 19:05

In terms of Japan - it’s simply incredible. We only went to Tokyo and had a day trip to Nagano to see the snow monkeys. It poured with rain the whole time we were there and it is still easily my favourite holiday.

We had no issue with language. As others have said Google translate and lens are really helpful and will see you through. I would suggest getting a hotel as close to one of the main stations in Tokyo so that you’ve got good access to the whole city.

Have a fab time!

sashh · 03/08/2025 05:04

OP I have copied your first post and emailed to my carer. He says he has some advice on visiting Nara. I think he means how to not get bitten.

If you are in need of a new kitchen knife (or even if you are not) Japan is the place to buy a new one.

sashh · 03/08/2025 10:17

OK I have a reply for you OP

I would be grateful for answers to any or all of the questions below!
I've found some great value tickets with Air China. Is it ok as an airline? I can cope with it not being the most luxurious travel experience, so long as it's basically safe and reliable.

I can't comment, but Im travelling with them soon so fingers crossed!

I don't want to be over-ambitious, so am planning to spend roughly a week in Tokyo and about a week in Kyoto/Osaka with possibly some day trips. I'll probably be doing the trip solo and it's quite tiring working everything out on your own, hence mainly doing those two cities. I realise I'll only be getting a flavour of the country, but would I be missing anywhere absolutely essential that I couldn't accomplish as a day trip if I plan it like that?

I wouldnt say so. Osaka and Kyoto are pretty close (about an hour by train if memory serves), pretty earsy to spent time in both. One thing I feel i should memtion is that recently, due to torists behaving badly, certain parts of Kyoto's historical geisha district, Gion, have introduced ban on tourists entering. Please be careful and hyper aware of any signage.

Should I be looking for any specific type of accommodation? I.e. in Morocco I would recommend a Riad rather than a hotel. A ryokan? Capsule hotel?

Ive always stayed in Hostels (kinda like capsule hotels but less fancy). You can save a lot of money staying in a hostel, but there are downsides (lack of space, shared bathrooms). First, I'd decide if you'd be ok with a hostel or not. Then look on book.com (other comparison sites are available) and find do a search based on hostel/hotel and a price range. Find somewhere youlike the look of thats close to a train station. Japanese cities have great public transport. Being near the city centre is good, but not essential, but also make sure you're not way out in the suburbs. I cant say much for Osaka/Kyoto, but in Tokyo you might want to look at the areas of Asakusa and Ueno for accomodation. I've satayed at a place called Hostel LodgingTokyo Minowa (Minowa is the name of the area) that was nice. As for ryokan, I'd say youre paying a little more for the experience. If you want to try it out, maybe been one night but spend the rest of the time in a hotel/hostel

Anything amazing that isn't on all the lists of obvious must-sees?

Nothing springs to mind. Decide what you're into and go do that (sounds obvious, I know)

Will I manage with very basic Japanese? Is it worth trying to learn hiragana? Basic phrases? I did a short course and am planning to continue with Duolingo until I go (probably in October).

Japan, in my experience, is pretty English friendly. Signs and train info is usually in both. I dont think learning Hiragana will help much for this trip (its mostly just used for grammatical functions), but if you're planning to learn the language its essential. Yes to basic phrases, very helpful. Id recommend downloading a translation app like google translate or Wooask. You can trype in something in English, get a translation and just show it to the person (or try to say it if you're feeling confident). These apps also allow you to take photos of written japanese and will give you a reasonable translation. Lots of places to eat will have english language menus, buts the translation can be a bit ropey sometimes. Also be aware that here's a move in japan right now towards 2 tier pricing for visitor so things on the english menu might be more expensive than on the japanese one.

I'm a bit confused about onsens - do you also stay overnight?

Some Ryokan will have onsen baths onsite, but most onsen and just for visiting, not staying. Theres also things called sento with are public bathhouses too. The difference is that sento just use 'normal' and are are more for getting clean, while onsen use geothermal water pumped from underground that have minerals in and are usually for relaxing and some possible health benefits. If you're planning to go to either PLEASE read about the rules for using an onsen or sento. A quick google search will bring up plenty of infor, but please take the time to learn about it.

Any other tips, like anything particular I ought to take?

Not really, pretty much anything you need you can get in Japan.

If I do the journey I'm planning I will have a 20-hour stopover in Beijing so I'm hoping to go into the city for a few hours and then stay overnight in a hotel. It seems I can do this without need a visa. Can anyone confirm this, or confirm I've got it wrong? (Please only answer this one if you're absolutely positive one way or the other!)

Sorry, I'm not sure about the visa but I was reading the other day that if you have a long layover in Beijing, China Air with put you up in a hotel for free. Worth a quick search.

Extra -
Always carry your passport with you everywhere. Japanse police can and will ask to see it (happened to me in osaka once). You can be arrested if youre not able to show it.

This may seem obvious, but don't follow touts. If a man (and its usually a man) approaches you to get you to come to their bar or club, DON'T. Ignore them and walk away. There are many stories of tourists being drugged and having huge charges put on their credit cards.

notimagain · 03/08/2025 10:34

Always carry your passport with you everywhere. Japanse police can and will ask to see it (happened to me in osaka once). You can be arrested if youre not able to show it.

Oh good point that I'd forgotten....I think Tokyo police can be fairly relaxed about the ID/passport rule but I've known of someone who fell foul of the rule in another city (not arrested but they got very very politely escorted back to their hotel).

ShanghaiDiva · 03/08/2025 10:39

I used to live in China and have flown with many Chinese airlines. Air China is the national carrier and is fine. I would take your own entertainment and some snacks.

notimagain · 03/08/2025 10:41

ShanghaiDiva · 03/08/2025 10:39

I used to live in China and have flown with many Chinese airlines. Air China is the national carrier and is fine. I would take your own entertainment and some snacks.

Out of interest do know or can you recall roughly how much of the onboard entertainment is available in English language.

BlueandWhitePorcelain · 03/08/2025 10:49

We flew to China with Air China; and on various internal flights round the country as part of an organised tour. It all seemed fine to us - no different from the average airline. We did fly over Russia, but it was before the invasion of Ukraine.

Nothing could compare to flying round Africa on internal flights, when we did it over 30 years ago - landing on an area of cleared bush, where the airport consisted of a bench!

DappledThings · 03/08/2025 10:51

notimagain · 03/08/2025 10:41

Out of interest do know or can you recall roughly how much of the onboard entertainment is available in English language.

Between a third and a half. With English subtitles on everything else

ShanghaiDiva · 03/08/2025 10:53

notimagain · 03/08/2025 10:41

Out of interest do know or can you recall roughly how much of the onboard entertainment is available in English language.

Have only done short haul with Air China, so no entertainment at all. Sorry!

notimagain · 03/08/2025 10:57

DappledThings · 03/08/2025 10:51

Between a third and a half. With English subtitles on everything else

@DappledThings and @ShanghaiDiva many thanks.

Takoneko · 03/08/2025 11:33

Hi Op! You’ve had a lot of good advice here.

You can see lots between Kyoto/Osaka and Tokyo. Look into the JR West regional passes for day trips. They are great value. Don’t bother with the national JR pass. They aren’t good value anymore and you can’t use the fastest Shinkansen on those passes. I think I’ve visited a dozen or so cities in Japan and I personally prefer pretty much everywhere I’ve been in Japan to Kyoto as an experience. I went in peak season and just didn’t find it enjoyable, even though it’s very beautiful. Not to put you off… some people absolutely love it, I didn’t.

In terms of learning Japanese, having some is definitely useful, but not necessary. With limited time I’d prioritise learning katakana and some basic vocab and phrases. Katakana allows you to read “English” words written in Japanese. Eg. コーヒー = kōhī = coffee, ホテル = hoteru= hotel, ハンバーガー= hanbāgā = hamburger.

niadainud · 04/08/2025 16:26

Thanks everyone who has contributed since I last posted. Much appreciated!

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