Can he legally go??

[ThatADHDmama]

So my partner of 3 years wants to take my son 3yo to Disneyland. (I was 9 months pregnant when I got with my boyfriend) Unfortunately I might have to work, can he still take my son? They are not blood related but I don’t want him missing out on a great opportunity. It just I know there’s papers to sign when your blood related so didn’t know if it was possible if they were not blood related.

Blood doesn't really matter.

I assume the child has your name and you haven't put him on the BC? Does he have any legal responsibility for the child?

I ask because I know 2 people in similar circumstances that put the boyfriend on the BC

Write a letter saying you give permission.
If your sons father has PR he might need to do the same

Yes, he can. Make sure you write a letter of permission with your details on that he can take with him. We were contacted by Border Force at the terminal when friends took my then-10-year-old on holiday for a weekend.

Blood doesn't really matter, so put him on the birth cert?! What the actual fuck?

Of course he can, with your permission. Just like family friends take kids on holiday, and grandparents do

As others have said, yes. However, if you and your ex both have PR, I suspect that in a situation like this you'd need a letter from your ex too.

I'd also consider getting such a letterr notarised personally. Not completely required but it would mean that the border control would be more confident that he has not faked the letter of permission.

I don't think a Disney trip without him mum would be much fun for a 3 year old. Can't whole thing wait till he's around 5 or more?

Isn’t that illegal?

Shouldn't you all just wait until you can all go together? There's really not that much for a 3YO to do at Disneyland and I agree with PP wait until he's 5/6 YO and can go on more rides.

That would be fraud.

Yes it is. But it happens.

Neither situation worked out well.

You don’t need dads permission even if he’s on the birth certificate.

Some people spout rubbish!

Why would OP put a BF on a birth certificate - a legal document? Idiots.

OP he can go with your partner - there ar e standard forms to fill out if you want peace of mind - just gives your permission IF he’s stopped at the boarder.

Why can’t you go?

I didn’t say the Op should. Maybe try reading what I actually said.

Blood doesn’t matter when travelling. No one would know if you were blood related. I hat matters if he has legal links to the child.

Yes, I know people who have done it. I asked Op the questions at no point did I say I agree with it.

Who the fuck are you hanging around with @Wheresthefibre

"Blood doesn’t matter when travelling. No one would know if you were blood related. I hat matters if he has legal links to the child."

"Legal links"? 🤣 Don't be so bloody ridiculous. I took a kid on holiday I'd met once. With permission from her parents of course, nothing in writing. No "legal links" required.

Both parents permission would be needed, not just mum's (assuming bio dad on BC).

That said there's really not much point taking a 3yo to Eurodisney, esp without mum. Save the trip for when you can both go and he's older and can go on some of the rides.

"I don’t want him missing out on a great opportunity."

Op it's not a great opportunity for a 3 year old. Wait until he's older

You do need the fathers consent. Unless there is a CAO in place. But if you are taking children out of the country and no CAO is in place, every person with parental responsibility has to give consent.

I only know this as my exDP is refusing permission currently for me to take my children to my parents holiday home abroad, and as I have no child arrangements order, I can’t do anything.

Yes, they do know. We were phoned early in the morning by Border Force asking if we knew that our daughter was about to go abroad with unrelated people?

My daughter changed her married name back to her maiden name when divorced.. some had husbands name. She had to take his birth certificate to passport control.
So I'd definitely find out what is needed.
( Anyone can forge a letter).

I only know this as my exDP is refusing permission currently for me to take my children to my parents holiday home abroad, and as I have no child arrangements order, I can’t do anything.

You could spend £200 at court on a specific issue order.

How did they know they weren’t blood related? They took a blood test did they?

No, they knew there was no legal link between them.

If you had adopted your children they would have still been able to go. Because you still had legal responsibility for them so could give permission. Boarder force don’t care about blood relations they care about legal responsibility.

Parents who have adopted their children can take their kids abroad. It’s not the blood related bit that’s important.

I didn’t say they needed legal links. I asked if there was.

I don’t hang around with them.

One was a cousin. They even told his family he wa she bio father. They split up 9 months after the child was born. she got back together with the dad.

One was someone I worked with.

OP it's not a great opportunity for a three year old. He's too young to appreciate or remember it. Can't you all go when he is at least 5 or 6.