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Flying to UK from Oz on own with 2 kids - any advice?

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ozchick · 16/03/2008 00:59

Hi, I am heading back to the UK on Easter Sunday with my 2 girls (2 yrs and 6 months) for a 6 week holiday with my lovely family. YAYYY. Anyway, I am starting to get a bit nervous about the flight. I have got some Phenergan for the 2 yr old and lots of books/stickers etc for her. Anyone got any advice for me? Or positive stories would be nice. We are traveling via KL on Malaysian Airways.

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Neverenough · 16/03/2008 01:04

Hello Ozchick, I have done that very journey, Heathrow to Perth, by myself with two DDs similar ages.
To be honest it's a blur-they are 14 and 13 now!
But definitely liberal use of Phenergan-I think actually I used Vallergan Forte!
Lots of toys-PollyPocket was a winner with my older DD!
the baby is easy as she just feeds and sleeps-it's the endless trots up and down the aisle that wear you out!
I always scheduled the flight if possible so the UK to far East leg was overnight.
And if the hosties offer to help-let them!
Take snacks if you can.
Good luck and give my love to home!

Neverenough · 16/03/2008 01:05

Home being Australia.....

SittingBull · 16/03/2008 01:21

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ozchick · 16/03/2008 01:26

hee hee, SittingBull, you are right, I must be mad. I think it's only because i'm so desperate to go home and see my mum that i'm even contemplating it.

I have a friend here (Adelaide) who has done it with her 3 kids but they went Biz Class, the swines!

Neverenough, thanks for the advice, do you still do the trip? Will deffo pack my bag to the brim with snacks/toys/books etc

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SittingBull · 16/03/2008 01:33

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ozchick · 16/03/2008 02:31

oooooooo really? We are up in Stirling - just outside Adelaide. Flippin' hot here at the moment, we are having an unrelenting heatwave 38+ for the last 10 days. Am looking forward to getting back to the UK for a bit of nice drizzle.

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SittingBull · 16/03/2008 02:38

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AussieSim · 16/03/2008 02:38

Take a stop over for one night to break the trip up! Be demanding and get the best seats behind the loos/kitchen with the basinette (even if you don't use it).

ozchick · 16/03/2008 02:49

AussieSim, I thought of that but have decided to plod on for the full horror of 26 hours in the air. At least once we get to the UK my dear mum will have the kids whilst I can have a breakdown. Hopefully we have booked a bassinet - well, we definately have booked the bassinet, whether we actually get one remains to be seen. The thought of doing it with a baby on my knee is too horrendous.

SittingBull, oooo Belair, fancy that, that's just down the road. Where are you? In the UK I lived in Brighton, but grew up in Cheltenham. Funnily enough I don't really miss Brighton at all but do miss Cheltenham and surrounding countryside a LOT. Here it is all Gum trees and scorched grass. I can't wait to see some puddles and take some soggy walks in the chilly countryside.

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Sibble · 16/03/2008 03:11

I usually do it on own with my two every year - July this year and through Korea for the first time (cheap flights!). I've had some really good flights with ds1 from age 3 (he's now 8) but absolute flights from hell with ds2 who is energetic at the best of times. Last flight home with him was like a black comedy resulting in woman in seat behind having a breakdown about 8 hours into flight and screaming for gods sake shut him up!!!!!!!! Very helpful, if I'd had phenergan I would have taken it myself . In fact most of my stories tend not to be too positive - ds2 last time threw plate of food behind him into lap of person behind, his bottle on sleeping woman's head, litre bottle of water on my seat before take off, food down my t-shirt etc etc...I have to add I was tending to ds1 each time and not swigging free wine or having a snooze! Anyway alot depends on the child.

I havn't used phenergan. They say try it 3 times before you fly as it has the reverse effect in some children (eg my step son who was wired for 24 hours). They say they might not react the first time which is why they say give it three goes!?!?!?

We always do at least a 12 hour stop and check into hotel, shower let them run around, swim in hotel pool, feed them non airline food etc...I actually think it's more for me than them, it's a mini sanity break.

Unless you really need them don't bother with car seats on flights, nobody will help you cart them and your bags through passports and when changing planes. Trying to run after a toddler with car seat, cabin size backpack and carry on bag is not fun.

Ask for them to keep your food while you feed children, then get them to clear theirs while you eat yours so you don't end up wearing more than everybody eats.

Be militant about the basinette and pre-book if you can. With a 6 month old you should be OK, they tend to favour younger children if there are too many. Do strap them in, even at 4 months they do fall out (didn't want to wake him). Lesson learnt there.

Rest usuals - wrap little $2 shop presents that are exciting to open but don't matter if they fall on the floor and get lost. Colourings, books, favourite teddy to use as a pillow.

Make a big deal about being on your own to cabin crew they sometimes can have you escorted to front of all queues (passport etc) which is a god send - trying to not lose a toddler under the ropes in a queue, watch your bags and other child can be rather challenging.

If all else fails cry hysterically - somebody usually helps then and chant the mantra - it's only 26 hours....

Roll on fast planes I say....

ghosty · 16/03/2008 03:31

I don't drug my kids on flights but hey, that's just me. Each to their own I guess.
Agree with most of what sibble says although I have never bothered with the wrapped presents - just can't be arsed with that.
Ghosty's biggest tip: Let the toddler do what he/she likes (within the bounds of safety of course) ... if she wants to do laps around the plane, do laps around the plane. If she wants to stand up on her seat let her, if she wants to stand on her head let her. If you try to stop her from talking/standing up/playing peekaboo with the person behind you she will kick off. Honestly. I have flown many times with toddlers and every time I tried to 'shush' them or stop them doing something they would kick off an almighty tantrum that would cause the whole plane to look accusingly in my direction. If I gently guided them while they wanted to do laps around the plane or let them bounce up and down on my knee singing Old Macdonald no one batted an eyelid. In fact everyone smiles indulgently at such a happy happy cherub .
I know it sounds like terrible parenting but a Jumbo Jet is no place to demonstrate your brilliant parenting techniques. You can discipline them with your time outs etc as much as you like when you get to your destination.

The only absolute NO NO in my book is kicking seats and playing 'up down up down' with the food tray.
Like my mate sibble says, it is only 26 hours. And what doesn't kill you will make you stronger

luminous · 16/03/2008 03:31

Echo what everyone else says - liberal use of phergan also we put our big one to sleep on the floor as lots of room there! Some airlines now veto this due to decompression or lack of Oxygen. We tended to ignore this in favour of a quiet life! Take papoose thingy as very good for pottering about plane! Do not know if you have girls or boys but toy wise we bought a doll from mothercare for our girl that clothes can pop onand transformers for boy! Have also bought drinks for row behind when screaching became to crazy!

May force be with you - it will pass!

ghosty · 16/03/2008 03:35

Coloured pipe cleaners (a whole bunch of them) are brillliant to take on flights ... you can make loads and loads of different shapes and 'pictures' with them ... and then re use them.

Sibble · 16/03/2008 06:32

oh and forgot don't be too keen to board when they do the first call for children etc.... just longer in a confined space imo. better to let them spend a little bit longer letting off steam in the lounge unless they are tired.

and best tip of all - have a nanny take them cattle class while you sit in first sipping free bubbly (oh in my dreams )

Shells · 16/03/2008 07:49

Mmm. Agree with Sibble and Ghosty. I've done it a couple of times on my own with two little ones. The boredom factor was the worst for us and trying to keep them quiet when they'd turned off the lights and it was supposedly 'night'. We spent a lot of time in the toilets filling and emptying the sink. Brushing our teeth. Playing with paper cups etc. etc. God it was exhausting!
But mostly I've found staff on planes and at airports to be brilliantly helpful and it gets you through. You'll be fine. Oh - and snacks is good idea. Sometimes food not there at right times.

ghosty · 16/03/2008 10:20

And sick bags make wonderful hand puppets (un-used ones obviously )
If you draw funny faces on them and tear holes out for 'arms' ...

ozchick · 16/03/2008 22:58

Thanks so much for the advice, everyone. It's good to have some tips and to hear that you have all done it and survived!

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BoysOnToast · 19/03/2008 09:13

book bassinet NOW. and check in early and ask again then.

a roll of sellotape will keep a 2yo busy for ages

a change of clothes for you as well as them (smallest-folding thing you can think of - i took thin trackies and a tshirt) in case you get peed, pood or puked on.

dont be shy to ask for help

enjoy!

MelbourneMum · 20/03/2008 08:45

I've done a number of long hauls with our two ds's since they were born (now almost 3 and almost 5) sometimes with dh sometimes without and I know this might sound ridiculous but I've found how you approach it also plays a HUGE role in how the whole journey will pan out (in my experience anyway). If you are relaxed/do your best to stay relaxed, keep perspective and view the whole things as a pretty exciting adventure actually, then they tend to as well. We've just never approached travel with kids as a problem and honestly, hand-on-heart, it never has been. How often do you get to spend 24 hours one-on-one with your kids these days!

Best of luck, it will be great!!

You can all take aim and throw things at me now

claraquitetirednow · 20/03/2008 20:59

Just out of interest, how do you cope with nappy changes/toilet trips with two of this age? Might be doing some long trips with my two this coming year and at the moment can't work the logisitics out!

Shells · 21/03/2008 06:51

take them both with you. or make friends with your neighbours - ask them to watch one of them. or the staff will watch them I'm sure.

keevamum · 21/03/2008 08:00

Melbourne Mum I totally agree with you. Stay relaxed...it really works. Don't get stressed about the little things, laugh....my 2 DDs have always been great travelling but I think it does make a difference how you approach it from the outset. It can be great-honest!

evenhope · 21/03/2008 14:37

We have just got back from NZ with a 12 mth old so I have huge respect for anyone attempting it with 2 kids...

We had a woman next to us on one leg of the journey with a baby and toddler. When she got on she handed the baby to my DH until she'd sorted herself out . We found the other passengers very good. When our baby woke up and we were asleep (only for about 10 minutes- honestly!) someone stood and watched she didn't fall out of the bassinet. When the woman next to us took her toddler to the toilet someone else watched her baby.

At one point her toddler was doing that moany grizzling they do when they are really tired and mother was getting more and more wound up telling her to be quiet. It wasn't bothering me and I doubt it was bothering anyone else. She'd have done better to ignore it.

Tip we picked up was always ask staff at the airport to let you go to the front of any queue.

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