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New England/New York ideas wanted - including three nights where have nowhere to stay yet

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DontCallMeBaby · 15/07/2023 11:14

DH and I are travelling to the north east US in August to pick up DD (19) from her summer camp and tag a holiday on the end. We have most of our accommodation booked, and a hire car from arrival in Boston until we go to New York (flying out of JFK but dropping the car at La Guardia before staying carless in Manhattan). We have very few things planned or booked to do and could do with some inspiration. We also have a gap in our accommodation and itinerary that is frustrating me - the whole thing being quite open-ended meant it took me about six hours last weekend to settle on one place to stay and now I have to do it all over again!

I think I’m quite easy to please. I like nice food and drink, chilling outside, reading a book in a cafe, going for a walk. I like bookshops, museums of almost any kind, history (especially social history), true crime, witches, and cemeteries. I don’t want to do too many things we could do pretty much anywhere, and I’m not great with heights.

DD and DH have far less tolerance for bookshops, museums and cemeteries, but will humour me for a while. Both have great heads for height and have enjoyed all sorts of stuff in that ilk in the past while I’ve bumbled about in the ground. DH now however had a chronic neck injury that rules out the more extreme stuff.

DD is chill about what we do to the point of being unhelpful. She’s doing Korean at university and is into modern Korean culture (history not so much). I’ve taken her on numerous trips to London, she didn’t hate anything, but pretty much the only thing she really loved was an interactive Alice in Wonderland show (Alice’s Adventures Underground, I think it’s back on in Waterloo this late summer/autumn and it’s amazing). Oh, and one of her many Netflix repeat watches is Gilmore Girls, so she might enjoy a real life Stars Hollow if we can find such a place!

Stop 1 is Lincoln, NH, where we have a winery tour booked, and do nothing other than that plus hopefully have a couple of nice dinners, check out the area a bit, and look forward to seeing DD after two months.

We then pick up DD and travel to stop 2, Rumney, NH (it’s nowhere in particular, just found a nice-looking cabin to stay in). It’s only about half an hour away, just as well as we have a zip line thing booked the following day which is practically back in Lincoln. Three nights here so we then have the whole of Sunday with nothing planned.

Then there is the gap. This needs to be stop 3 of three nights as I can’t bare to split it and have to find two more places to stay! We are about five hours away from New York at this point, so it would be good but not essential to get a little closer. Certainly don’t want to go north. Don’t want to drive anywhere too challenging, so wouldn’t want to stay in central Boston for instance. I quite want to go to Salem, but not sure there’s enough to justify it, and pretty sure we don’t want to stay there. Considering somewhere west of Boston to make Salem and Boston themselves accessible, but nowhere is standing out. Also considered Rhode Island, in part for the rather silly reason DH and I have been to the other five states in New England but not RI. Or the very vague idea we could go much further south into Connecticut and really reduce how much driving we need to do to get to NY.

We then have stop 4, Thursday to Sunday in New York. Definitely want to do something up high (eg Empire State but probably not that specifically) and the 9/11 museum. We have tickets to Hadestown Friday night. Obviously there’s no shortage of things to do but ideas still welcome, and clever tips.

Very grateful if anyone has read this absolute unit of a post and has any ideas … if not I think it’s helped me anyway to write it all out!

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Cocotrain · 15/07/2023 11:24

You could get a ferry across to cape cod?

Cocotrain · 15/07/2023 11:26

NYC I’d do top of the rock, Staten Island ferry, Brooklyn bridge, there’s a really good bbq place in Brooklyn called home town bbq

you can also do some cool movie/tv series tours in nyc

Singleandproud · 15/07/2023 11:35

I would spend all my time in Salem but that's just me.
Are you likely to go th the US again? If not and you want different things would it be worth splitting up?

LG93 · 15/07/2023 11:44

We stayed in Mystic, CT which was quite nice, had an aquarium and various other places/things in driving distance although we were there for a wedding so didn't see much of it, the food was incredible though. Im sure with some googling you could find a good fit in CT, it's very pretty and quite 'gilmore girls' in places!

DontCallMeBaby · 15/07/2023 13:42

This is good stuff, thank you all! I think we may split up some of the time, esp in NY. That might take the form of giving DD the occasional lie-in, assuming eight weeks of 7am reveille haven’t cured her nocturnal nature 😃

@Singleandproud what would you do in Salem?

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cheezncrackers · 15/07/2023 13:55

Newport, RI is interesting. There are all these huge summer houses there that used to belong to v. wealthy NYC families and during the Belle Epoque they'd head up there for the summer. Take a look:

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The Newport Mansions offers a unique trip through 250 years of American history, architecture, art and landscape design.

https://www.newportmansions.org

Sugarflowers · 15/07/2023 13:57

I would be tempted to rethink this OP
Why are you travelling about? What is it you want to see that is making you move?

Why not base yourselves in one ace if you've got no driver for moving places.

So pick up DD, get a holiday rental for a week (maybe nice town west of Boston - then day trip Cambridge, day trip or two Boston ( can train both if town has station), day trip Cape Ann and Salam, day trip college towns west of Boston - you get the idea...Drive to NYC.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 15/07/2023 14:07

Sorry if I'm missing something, but why are you not spending time in Boston, which is a fab city: compact but with lots to do? Loads of historical stuff for you, lots of good food and chilling at the harbour for your DH and DD.

Drop the car back at Logan as you leave NH. Take public transport into Boston (easy). Spend 3 days in Boston. Take train (or Greyhound) to NYC. You will save hours of time, compared to driving to La Guardia. Traffic around NYC is horrendous. The train takes you right to the centre.

Alternatively, keep the car, use Boston as your base, and take a day trip to Salem, then drop car at Logan at the end. Driving in Boston is a bit challenging because of the tunnels but it is nowhere near as bad as the NYC area. But you can do Salem by bus if you really don't fancy the car.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 15/07/2023 14:17

That bit of NH is one of my favourite places although Lincoln is a bit tacky touristy.

Flume Gorge is fabulous - book in advance. If you like the outdoors then drive along the Kancamagus highway to North Conway and stop to swim at Lower Falls, hike up to a waterfall, and visit Rocky Gorge. There’s a covered bridge near the falls too. North Conway has outlets if you’re into shopping.

I don’t particularly like Salem - it’s really touristy, and I wouldn’t go more than a day there.

Either Portland ME or Portsmouth NH are lovely to visit and you’d get to see the coast. If you go to Portland you can visit Portland Head Light, take a ferry to Peaks Island (you can rent bikes or golf carts there and explore), eat in loads of great restaurants, great shops, lots of breweries etc. It’s a really cool little city. Lots of beautiful beaches south of Portland.

Portsmouth is a bit smaller with less to do, but you can take the bus from there into Boston for the day very easily. And you could do a day in Salem from there.

This is my part of the world and all the friends who’ve visited have loved it :-)

DontCallMeBaby · 15/07/2023 15:19

More food for thought! I think keeping the car is a given, but I will stick a pin back in Boston. It’s all a bit complicated by the fact we’ve (me and DH) been to the general area before, but honestly I barely remember what we did. We’ve stayed in Boston, and done a few things - and also @ZZTopGuitarSolo looking at Flume Gorge I think we’ve been there, it’s incredibly familiar!

Of course if I can’t remember going somewhere there’s no reason not to go again … of course I do question why I even bother doing anything when I have a memory like a sieve.

Bus journeys of any length are off btw as DH gets travel sick on buses. A quirk fortunately not shared by DD as she had to do a 3 hour bus trip from Boston to Hanover NH to get to camp. We might call in there depending on what time we need to pick her up - it’s the home of Dartmouth College and looks quite nice, plus Ivy League colleges are kind of fascinating.

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Wallaw · 15/07/2023 15:47

Hanover's a nice half day, if that. Great uni but astonishingly little going on in the town. If you're a social realism buff there are some murals, and you can get a decent coffee at Dirt Cowboy Cafe, but there's not a lot more than that for visitors unless you want an admissions tour of the college.

I agree with @ZZTopGuitarSolo rec. Portland's a fab little city with lots to do, great restaurants, good shopping, nice art galleries and good access to beaches, island rambles, whale watching, etc. And if you set navigation to stay off the motorways, the drive from Hanover to Portland is very nice (and can even take you through the North Conway area).

Personally, I don't rate the Boston-area towns all that much. They're nice places to live, but not all that exciting to visit (other than Boston itself). The cape is lovely but can be deadly crowded that time of year.

https://hoodmuseum.dartmouth.edu/explore/collection/featured-collections/orozcos-epic

Orozco's Epic

https://hoodmuseum.dartmouth.edu/explore/collection/featured-collections/orozcos-epic

HundredMilesAnHour · 15/07/2023 15:49

MissConductUS · 15/07/2023 11:43

Mohonk Mountain House. I live relatively nearby. It's gorgeous.

Definitely agree with this. The Hudson Valley is wonderful! I have friends who live there and I always take a trip to Cold Spring or somewhere else along the Hudson whenever I'm in NYC. Great food, wineries, lovely independent shops and art galleries plus stunning scenery. I love it!

stringbean · 16/07/2023 09:43

If you like social history, the Lower Eastside Tenement museum may be of interest in NYC. It's on my list of things to see if I ever make it there!

Vanillalime · 16/07/2023 10:18

I’m not quite sure I am following your planned itinerary. Can you post it again as a list?

You are not too far from Lake George and the wonderful Sagamore Hotel. Or maybe you could head to Martha’s Vineyard?

ReviewingTheSituation · 16/07/2023 12:21

Newport, RI, was a nice place for a couple of nights on our trip. Also somewhere on Cape Cod, but I forget where exactly. We had a day trip to Martha's Vinyard, which was good (we hired bikes and did a long ride).
We also went into CT, but we were meeting up with a friend, so it was geared around that. It was a handy stop off, as we left the car there and got the train to NYC from there.

weebarra · 16/07/2023 12:24

I spent a summer as a student at Dartmouth. Hanover is a lovely town but not sure how much there is to do there.

DontCallMeBaby · 16/07/2023 14:33

I do now have a complete itinerary for places, having forced myself to find the missing nights’ accommodation yesterday. So we now have:

Tuesday - arrive Boston, travel to Lincoln, NH (stop 1)
Wednesday - winery tour (this is about 4pm so we might wander over to Hanover in the morning, or go somewhere else random for lunch and a poke around)
Thursday - collect DD, travel to Rumney, NH (stop 2)
Friday - do ziplines near Lincoln (there are reasons for the scheduling silliness here, fortunately it’s only about half an hour away)
Saturday - nothing planned
Sunday - travel to Portsmouth, RI (stop 3)
Monday & Tuesday - nothing planned but want to do this: www.railexplorers.net
Wednesday - travel to New York (stop 4)
Thursday - nothing planned
Friday - Hadestown (evening performance)
Saturday and Sunday - nothing planned
Tuesday - head home

I feel a lot better now I can plan around the stopovers! At one point we had flights and nothing else (had to coordinate with DD), not even ESTAs, and it made me very nervous.

I’m thinking outdoor stuff on that first Friday, definitely some amount of Newport mansions when we’re in RI, and then the trouble with NYC will be narrowing it all down! I do fancy the tenement museum, very much my kind of thing, and I’m softening DH up for a cemetery (Green-Wood in Brooklyn looks interesting).

By the way I agree that the Mohonk Mountain House and Sagamore Hotel looks beautiful - but the prices! It doesn’t help that we need two rooms (DH and I snore in relay, poor DD would never sleep) but even if we could share, they are very pricy.

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