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please boycott ryanair

106 replies

hermykne · 25/01/2008 21:34

this is why
he is anti family
he being michael o leary (who had his first child last year and should appreciate travelling with kids)

this week he bumped up taking a piece of luggage in the hold of the airplane by 50%

so in essence
a family of 4 buy their four equally priced flights, and then pay 114? to bring their clothes/toys/books on holidays with them.

he is a rip off merchant and i have so little respect for him even though he gave ireland a pathway to the world when aer lingus was incredible expensive..

so i shall not use ryanair unless absolutely vital.

please think before u have to pay your hard earned sckecles over to him/ryanair

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Rantmum · 01/02/2008 13:05

Priority boarding with children is an issue, because without it is feasible that my 3 year old and I could end up with seats at opposite ends of the airplane and then it is up to me to "negotiate" with other passengers and hope that one of them is sensible/thoughtful enough to allow me to swap seating arrangements. It is SENSIBLE for airlines to allow parents with small children to board first and least disruptive to other passengers in fact too, so if you are suggesting that people who require priority boarding with their children think something is owed to them then I would have to take issue with that. As it is, when flying with Ryanair, I have had to become one of those annoyingly aggressive pushy people who rush to get me and ds on first to ensure we are seated together. I am not out to win points for popularity, but it would be much more civilised if the airlines could just prioritise young families for boarding.

Rant over.

Buda · 01/02/2008 13:12

I agree Rantmum. I sort of boycott Ryanair as I hate them. Passengers are just a moneyspinner for them (and yes I know they are a business and out to make money but there is a limit). I am waiting for the day they figure they can make money out of the air on the planes. Maybe I should e-mail them and suggest that they charge for any possible use of the oxygen masks. Maybe they could sell us lifejackets?

I had an issue on a TAP (Air Portugal) flight where we did have seat numbers but I didn't check them and when we boarded we discovered that DH, DS (4 at the time) and I were all sitting in aisle seats seperately. I asked the stewardess to sort and and she shrugged her shoulders. So I stood up (to DH's embarassment) and refused to sit back down until it was sorted. No way was I travelling without one of us sitting with DS. Thankfully a young British couple realised what was going on and swapped.

MotherFunk · 01/02/2008 14:03

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MsHighwater · 01/02/2008 14:17

MotherFunk, you have clearly misunderstood what I meant when I mentioned people who are over 5'7". If you go back and read the post, you will see that I was talking about "extra legroom" seats. With airlines cramming as many seats as they possibly can into an aircraft, you don't have to be very tall to find the standard seats have too little legroom for comfort. At the same time, many airlines now ask you to pay extra for "extra legroom" seats meaning that if you choose not to, or are too late, you might find yourself condemned to having your knees jammed into someone else's back for the duration of your journey, or possibly get kneecapped when the person in front raises their armrest. I was being sarcastic. End of clarification.

As for doubting that anyone would ever be unable to persuade another passenger to swap seats to allow a small child to sit with its parent, why the bloody hell should it come down to depending on the goodwill of other passengers to make sure that an unacceptable situation is avoided? It is not the responsibility of other passengers to ensure the wellbeing or Ryanair's passengers, it is Ryanair's responsibility and they should not be permitted to shirk that responsibility just because they are cheap.

If you were in that situation and no-one would move seats for you, you'd blame the other passengers, wouldn't you - which is probably just what Ryanair banks on with these things.

twelveyeargap · 01/02/2008 14:19

Have you ever boarded a Ryanair flight and found that the second and/ or third row of seats have a note on them saying you shouldn't sit there?

FYI, Mrs Highwater, that note is because the seats are reserved for passengers with reduced mobility, those with vision impairment and other disabilities. Those passengers are boarded last to avoid any scrum. They are also refunded any charges which have been added to their ticket price because of needing to check in at the airport, rather than online.

To try to say that because I think you expect too much from a budget airline means that I don't care about passengers with disabilities is ridiculous in the extreme and frankly, clutching at straws to find reasons to dislike Ryanair.

MotherFunk · 01/02/2008 14:30

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GetOrfMoiLand · 01/02/2008 14:37

I have been on a Ryanair flight which was only about three quarters full. The first 6 or so rows were completely blocked off. This was not for less able bodied people to sit on, it was in order to cram everybody in the back of the plane, and make the plane quicker to clean during turnaround time.

I work in aerospace and there is a very strong feeling in the industry that ryanair do try to cut corners in safety and compliance (as far as you can in aviation, which is thankfully not much). They do have a lot of very inexperienced pilots who are building up their flying hours though, and pay Ryanair for the privilege. Hence the cheap fares.

Rantmum · 01/02/2008 14:40

I use Ryanair because they are cheap and that is the ONLY reason I use them.

So they are good at what they do, if what we accept that all thatt they do is be cheap.

I am aware of that and if my budget every goes up, or we move somewhere nearer a more standard airport, I will cease to use them, because I do like to be treated like a human rather than like cattle. But for now, I will continue to use Ryanair and try very hard to accept the dichotomy of what I love and loathe about them; their inherent cheapness.

MsHighwater · 01/02/2008 15:09

MotherFunk, extra legroom seats are generally those located at the exits. Some aircraft have more of them than others but all aircraft, I think, have at least some of them, even those belonging to budget airlines. And I do think I deserves to end his journey with the same number of kneecaps as when I began it but, hey, perhaps we'll just have to agree to disagree about that.

MotherFunk · 01/02/2008 15:21

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MsHighwater · 01/02/2008 15:30

MotherFunk, do you, by any chance, think that people should pay "excess baggage" when they fly (so to speak) if they are obese?

MotherFunk · 01/02/2008 15:39

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DiamandaGalas · 01/02/2008 15:40

I DO ALREADY! I FXXCKING HATE THEM WITH PASSION!

MsHighwater · 01/02/2008 15:53

Hmmm. Thought so.

aquababe · 01/02/2008 15:57

hermykne

Haven't read the other post but you've just reminded me i have to book a flight My dh has said if ryan air is 40 cheaper than other air lines we can go with them so just checked out costs 54 pounds for luggage (and that's without a pushchair, +12 with)

ryan'rubbish'air* was more expensive!!!!!

hooray for aerlingus!
30 cheaper(after luggage)

To my mind he started taking the pee when started charging you to get a plane first
seriously and I'm so sick of the fall-out-of-the-sky landings

MotherFunk · 01/02/2008 15:57

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Tatties · 01/02/2008 16:04

What Marina said

Yes to a certain extent you get what you pay for, no frills - fair enough. But IMO, that shouldn't apply to customer service and basic standards

trixymalixy · 01/02/2008 19:29

Actually on flights that aren't full the front rows are reserved so that they can balance the aircraft safely not to make it quicker to clean.

trixymalixy · 01/02/2008 19:30

Sorry didn't mean that to sound so arsey!!

And I'm not defending Ryanair in any way shape or form

MotherFunk · 01/02/2008 20:29

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MsHighwater · 01/02/2008 20:38

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MotherFunk · 01/02/2008 20:44

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SugarSkyHigh · 01/02/2008 20:46

is this the airline that had an advert banned recently for depicting a schoolgirl in a sexual way or something???

MsHighwater · 01/02/2008 21:19

MotherFunk, so don't boycott it, no-one's forcing you. You have the freedom to fly with whichever airline you wish.

I'm glad for you that your experience has been OK. I think you must accept that other people have had less satisfactory dealings with Ryanair even allowing for the low fares. Lots of people, it would seem.

SugarSkyHigh, that's them. They refused to withdraw the ad. Story here.

MotherFunk · 01/02/2008 22:12

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