Just had message to say our hand/cabin luggage is now going into hold as flight is busy.Trouble is....

[bizzey]

..Our cabin luggage is not hold friendly !

Short city break.
The DC's planned(and packed!) luggage are small holdalls.

Will they treat this type of luggage differently to the big hold suitcases that you see th chuck around ?

Thanks.

you often see the early borders/priority borders putting wheelie, handbag, duty free and coats into the overhead

Oh it’s maddening. That’s what I call being selfish. If you have a small amount of consideration towards your fellow passengers, you keep stuff at your feet until it’s clear that there’s enough space for others too to put small bags in the locker. Otherwise it just takes extra time when people are asked to keep them on their laps, they pretend it’s not their bags, etc…

If people MUST have it all in the locker, book business class where there is an extra 33% locker capacity!

I ALWAYS keep my smaller stuff with me. Thought it was common sense... clearly not.

People aren’t being cheeky though are they. They are taking what is allowed, ie small case and handbag, plus coat on most airlines.

it’s up to the airlines to either reduce how many tickets are sold allowing a case on board ie Ryanair do this they only allow 70% of ticket sales to have a priority case. Or reduce bag sizes again so everyone can take on board.

i Expect when I book ticket to be able to take what I have booked. I generally pack light, and would like to leave airport asap when I arrive.

airline recently also tried to say our hand luggage sized pram couldn’t go on as plane full. But dh, myself and Ds all had full luggage allowance of x3 cabin bags, plus x3 under seat. I argued that we only had one rucksack to go under seat and the pram between the three of us ie only using up 1 out of 3 slots in cabin above. Why should it matter that we choose that within size allowance and someone else might bring a whole case of kitkats.

We always buy cabin allowance for one overhead item (yes, Ryanair-friendly dimensioned wheelie bag) and one hand luggage. This comes with priority boarding so we will be one of the first on the plane and able to find space in the overhead compartments before they get filled. Having paid for it, I would not be pleased to have my cabin luggage go into hold and so far, have not been asked to do so.

notimagain: The theory generally is that not everybody carries a big wheelie, so on most flight you'll have enough room in the overhead lockers as long as people are prepared to use the footwell for smaller items...problem is a lot of people won't and as a result you often see the early borders/priority borders putting wheelie, handbag, duty free and coats into the overhead.

I thought it was understood that overhead is only for wheelies/big luggage and everything else is supposed to fit into the footwell. God, people are so inconsiderate to jam their bits and bobs up there as well. If cabin crew go round and people won't admit to coats/handbags being theirs, cabin crew should just take them and stuff them up front or at the back (I have seen mini lockers for these) for them to be claimed by the inconsiderates on disembarkation.

So many ignorant, selfish people.
Some of the cabin type suitcases are actually quite bulky. There is only X amount of space available on the plane.

Why are they selfish and ignorant if they're just sticking to the rules the airline set? I appreciate its very annoying when your overhead compartment gets full with other people junk, but as long as they've kept to the dimensions set by the airline, I don't see what they're doing wrong.

On my recent flight back from Cyprus we were told quite firmly over the tannoy as we were boarding the plane we had 8 mins until take off, if we werent ready and seated by then , it could mean we' re on the ground for hours, we had already had a 2.5 hr delay, l couldnt believe the amount of people cramming huge holdalls the size of suitcases and god knows what, it seemed to take forever, l only took a very small bag that l kept on me and my sons didnt have anything, l think they need to be firmer on amount of cabin luggage, it really slows everything down and causes massive queues on the plane, nobody could get seated because so many taking ages cramming luggage in overhead holdalls, same palaver when trying to get off.

I thought it was understood that overhead is only for wheelies/big luggage and everything else is supposed to fit into the footwell. God, people are so inconsiderate to jam their bits and bobs up there as well.

I have never understood that the overhead bins are just for cases. All the information I've read say the overhead bin is for your belongings. I couldn't fit my handbag and coat under the chair in front. I don't take a case. Why am I being inconsiderate to want my coat to go in the overhead bin?

My flight was invited to do this at the gate this weekend (flying BA). Lots of people with wheelie cases, plus rucksacks/handbags etc. They offered priority boarding as an incentive which I found odd, because surely the whole point of priority is being able to get your bag on first?

I travelled with a holdall and nobody approached me to store it. I think most holdalls should be able to fit under a seat, so if you are absolutely sure you don’t want to check it, and you are asked to (which I doubt) just put it under the seat. My bag is effectively A3 paper in size (plus depth, obviously) and there was plenty of room.

@MarshaMelrose - I was referring to people on here, suggesting ripping tags off or telling lies about the content of their suitcase....
I have to admit, when travelling on my own, I just use a 30l backpack with packing cubes for my clothes. Never had any problems. Also far more practical than the wheelie cases, you just don't look as sophisticated!

I actually think it's quite refreshing now that because people have to pay for carry on cabin bags, there's more room in the overhead lockers for what they were originally designed for e.g. coats, duty free bags and small bags.

If there's space of course you're not being inconsiderate. But if it's a fully booked flight and the lockers are full with suitcases, then it's only fair for everyone to fold their coats and keep them on their laps. Your choice not to take a case don't entitle you to take that space from someone else, so your coat doesn't crease.

To be fair, you will rarely be in this situation as most lockers have a bit of space on top of each suitcases where your coat can fit if folded over two or three times.

No. Because these days everyone is taking large suitcases on board. Just came back from holiday on a BA flight, and there was not enough room for everyone's luggage, and we only had small back packs, which went under the seats. Some people came on with multiple bags, multiple cases. Business Class passengers were having their luggage stored at the back. I think they need to tighten up again actually, it's getting crazy. Some of the cases were so big/wide they couldn't close the overheads.

Reading about the chaos on a BA flight and experiencing the relative smoothness on a Ryanair flight, I have to say Ryanair have got it right on cabin luggage. Ryanair's whole business model is turning the flights around quickly and so they would not want cf antics with cabin baggage to slow down boarding. This includes Ryanair imposing strict limits on the max dimensions on wheely cabin cases and paying for the privilege. BA's flexibility on cabin luggage ultimately causes more stress on boarding and makes for a less pleasant flying experience.

Ryanair are a machine. Whilst going down the stairs to disembark, a whole load of the next flight were already lined up behind gates and waiting to board. The plane would probably only just have landed 30 mins prior. You gotta respect that.

How on EARTH are people allowed to bring all these giant holdalls?

But if it's a fully booked flight and the lockers are full with suitcases, then it's only fair for everyone to fold their coats and keep them on their laps. Your choice not to take a case don't entitle you to take that space from someone else, so your coat doesn't crease.

I have never read or heard anyone say the lockers are for suitcases. The stewards always say stow your belongings overhead. Not, stuff your coat under the chair.
Why is it only fair that someone else can take a large case and take space overhead but my coat has to go on the floor? Why don't I get a share of the bins? I'm not taking space from someone else, it's my space that I've bought with my ticket and goes with my seat. To be fair I don't think is anyone else's business how I use my paid for space. Your choice to take a case with you doesn't entitle you to take space from someone else.

@Ylvamoon

• I was referring to people on here, suggesting ripping tags off or telling lies about the content of their suitcase....

Then I apologise. I didn't understand they were two separate points.

There isn't enough space on the plane if everyone takes a standard cabin suitcase on board. They rely on people checking in a larger suitcase and just taking a small bag on board. If enough people don't do this, they will need to put some of the larger bags in the hold.

If you are hoping for a quick exit then don't offer but bear in mind that if enough people don't volunteer you may still be asked to put your bags in the hole on boarding . If one of your bags is flimsy or contains something breakable or something you need on the journey, you can explain this at the time.

I don't quite get the 'faff' with toiletries at security - you pack it in a plastic bag and place it at the top of your bag so it's easy to remove. However if you do prefer to take some larger bottles then you now have the opportunity of checking your bags in for free .

They could even label each seats allocated bit of the overhead shelf. Then you can put whatever you want on there as long as it fits. Anything that doesn't fit gets sold off at auction.

The problem is that there is no physical space for everyone to have one item of the regular allowance. On a full 320 or 737, there are 180 passengers. There isn’t space for 180 cabin bags, but that’s what the airline advertises as their allowance. So everyone has paid, by default, only for ‘0.75 spaces’. Common sense dictates that passengers with a wheelie case can’t just hold it on their lap for the entire flight (it’s not even safe), which is why suitcases take priority over coats, which can be put on a lap or on the little hanger you get on airlines like BA.

This problem has been wisely approached by the likes of Ryanair, who only sell 60/70% of their passengers a cabin bag allowance. But people don’t like this either, and then complain that Ryanair are tight and charge you for everything. Airlines can’t win, can they.

Like I already mentioned though, your hypothetical scenario won’t ever happen in real life. Your coat will always fit on top of a cabin bag in the overhead locker, so you can just put it there instead of on the floor.

Based on YouTube videos, chances are it will be chucked around.

thought it was understood that overhead is only for wheelies/big luggage and everything else is supposed to fit into the footwell

Where are feet supposed to go?

We are taking back packs as our cabin bags/handbag allowance. The kind of size that secondary school kids take as school bags. Mine will have my personal belongings in so theey have not a cat in hell's chance of taking mine off me to put in the hold.

This has probably all happened because ofall the issues with hold luggage going missing. All the advice has been to try to take cabin baggage only to try to avoid lost hold luggage.