6 month validity on covid vaccine passport- Italy

[Keladrythesaviour]

Sorry to bring covid on to this board, but is anyone else looking line they might be affected by this new ruling in Italy (and maybe other countries, I'm not sure?)
As of February the covid vaccine will only have a 6 month validity, from what I've read. I had my booster in December and am due to go to Italy in June, so it runs out slap bang in the middle of my three week holiday. I've already moved this holiday three times
I know things are changing so quickly, but I don't see how this makes any sense, because surely most people over the age of 30 are going to be similarly affected, and anyone with any kind of vulnerability who was vaccinated early.
Do people envisage the Italian system changing as we get closer, or will there be buy-your-own booster options etc?
I'm not really sure what I'm asking, just absolutely gutted at the thought of cancelling this holiday again as I think I'll have to cancel for good this time.

I'm going in September (rearranged twice) and my booster was in December. I have no issues with getting another dose but currently I'm not allowed so I hope something changes by then. I suspect they will actually let covid laws expire as the U.K. government has indicated (well Boris) they plan to do

@Geamhradh oh good luck, that sounds incredibly stressful!

@jlgsy94 that does all sound rational, but I think Geamhradh is right in saying that they might align for travel if they have to, but once in you won't be able to do anything the pass is required for (aka everything).

Everything is changing so frequently I'm trying not to take any of it to heart as it may be different in a month's time...

Hmmm this is a bit worrying. We're going to Italy in June and my booster was November (DH was sooner). I guess we can only watch this space.

I'm sure things will have changed by then- Italy's emergency power legislation is due to be looked at again at the end of March. Right now, domestic restrictions are increasing as we're in the middle of the wave (the region I'm in turns yellow tomorrow for example) but by the spring it will have changed.
We just have to hope there's not another bloody variant round the corner.

I saw this earlier, we are going in April, I had my booster quite early - I’m ok by the skin of my teeth (my 180 days is a week after we leave) we were going to book again for summer but won’t be doing that now just in case

Hi, slightly off-topic here but wondering if anyone knows the answer? ( @Geamhradh ?) We are planning to go to Italy in Feb half term. The region we are staying in has just been reclassified as orange, but we fly into a 'yellow' region. Does the super green pass mean we can travel between different regions (especially if one is yellow and one is orange). We will be hiring a car, and won't be doing much travelling once we have got to our destination.
Re the expiry of super green passes, I read something on an Italian news site yesterday where they were talking about the 6 months having to be reviewed as it would effectively invalidate the SGPs for boosted people in the near future.

@Ditsy79

Hi, slightly off-topic here but wondering if anyone knows the answer? ( *@Geamhradh* ?) We are planning to go to Italy in Feb half term. The region we are staying in has just been reclassified as orange, but we fly into a 'yellow' region. Does the super green pass mean we can travel between different regions (especially if one is yellow and one is orange). We will be hiring a car, and won't be doing much travelling once we have got to our destination. Re the expiry of super green passes, I read something on an Italian news site yesterday where they were talking about the 6 months having to be reviewed as it would effectively invalidate the SGPs for boosted people in the near future.

Yes, I think you'll be OK, as travelling from one area to another is only restricted for non Green Pass holders. (This is where everything has changed since pre-vax days) Most, if not all of the new restrictions regarding the colours of regions are only for people who don't have a pass. That's why lots of doctors, scientists and politicians are saying the colour system really isn't necessary anymore, but I suppose they hope to push the last people not to be vaccinated into doing it.

@Geamhradh thanks for your reply - that's what I thought, but just wanted to check I hadn't misinterpreted the info.

In the EU country where I live, the covidpass is only valid for six or nine months or whatever it is.

BUT all that means is that you have to download and print a new one with a fresh issue date. Or download and keep on your phone.

It doesn't mean your vaccinations are invalid. It's literally the document that needs updating.

Like that your passport is only valid for 5 years. It doesn't mean you don't have citizenship after that. You just need a new passport.

Could that be the source of confusion, or am I over optimistic?

@lordloveadog oh I really really hope it is, but I'd have expected some clarification of that! Can I ask how they have phrased the information in your country?

@lordloveadog it’s dated from the time of your last jab, it’s not like renewing a passport
The super green pass is valid for nine months from the time of the most recent vaccination for those fully vaccinated (two doses or more), through January 31, 2022. Starting February 1, 2021, super green pass validity will be reduced to six months from the time of the most recent vaccination

Info from this page italygreenpass.com/new-decree-on-super-green-pass-restrictions/

Going to Italy at the end of May (hopefully) and we were boosted mid December so looks like we’ll just scrape through if this is the case! 😳

By summer they’ll either have to roll out another booster or change the rules, otherwise nobody in the country will be able to do anything?

Thanks to AnyFucker re Spain rules... that affects travel plans I want to make. I wanted to go when I would be ... 280 days after last covide jab.

So... these types of rules basically mean we should all be vaxx'd (whatever umpteenth time we're offered... as late as possible before travel, right?).

I was going to get DS's 2nd jab next week (convenient) but not convenient at all since it will probably mean booster sooner to do other travel. Really should get it done later, then.

@lljkk

Thanks to AnyFucker re Spain rules... that affects travel plans I want to make. I wanted to go when I would be ... 280 days after last covide jab.

So... these types of rules basically mean we should all be vaxx'd (whatever umpteenth time we're offered... as late as possible before travel, right?).

I was going to get DS's 2nd jab next week (convenient) but not convenient at all since it will probably mean booster sooner to do other travel. Really should get it done later, then.

Spain, Italy or whatever other EU country you travel to cannot shorten the validity of your vaccination certificate. From 1 February 2022 vaccination certificates will remain valid for 9 months after you’ve had your final dose of primary vaccination course. However, once you have had your booster, your vaccine certificate will remain valid until further notice. This will be legally binding to all 27 EU member states. The original Covid certificate legislation is due to expire after 12 months following its inception (1st July). So, unless they’re going to Jab people time and time again, I assume the law will cease at that point.

@jlgsy94 isn’t that only for travel? Italy will let you in but there is no point if you can’t do anything or go anywhere once you’ve arrived

[quote nancy75]@jlgsy94 isn’t that only for travel? Italy will let you in but there is no point if you can’t do anything or go anywhere once you’ve arrived[/quote]
Yes for travel, which is what I thought was the problem… oops ?

Hmm, the whole situation is just ridiculous.

@jlgsy94 once you get in to Italy you can’t sit in or outside a restaurant, or even go on a bus with their green pass - so it would make for a very boring holiday without one

[quote nancy75]@jlgsy94 once you get in to Italy you can’t sit in or outside a restaurant, or even go on a bus with their green pass - so it would make for a very boring holiday without one [/quote]
One would have to argue that, surely, they can’t put an expiration date on their super green pass following a booster, as per the EC there is not enough data to be able to say how long immunity lasts as yet.

@jlgsy94 this is the problem, I keep soothing myself with "rationally" and then read the information and think "wtf". So I'm oscillating between stress and reassurance. I think only time will tell, which is not the answer I'm after.

[quote Keladrythesaviour]@jlgsy94 this is the problem, I keep soothing myself with "rationally" and then read the information and think "wtf". So I'm oscillating between stress and reassurance. I think only time will tell, which is not the answer I'm after.[/quote]
Have you tried contacting the Italian embassy or the like for clarification?

@jlgsy94 no, I will closer to deadline time if there hasn't been further clarification. I'd just been interested to hear if other people were feeling the same sense of confusion over information being published!

Bit of an update from last night's news:
It was shoved into the end of the "here are today's numbers". It said that the government will be looking into the fact that the GPs/SGPs expire 270 days after the booster, with a view to extending their validity but it will depend on how things go wrt infections etc. It specifically mentioned healthcare workers who were vaccinated earlier than everyone else, and so had their booster around the end of August.

So, fingers crossed.

180! 180!
Why do I keep typing 270.