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Travelling to USA Covid regulations

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confusedofsussex · 18/10/2021 12:48

I am hoping to be finally reunited in December with my brother and my new nephew who live in New York after Covid restrictions are relaxed next month. I also want to take my youngest daughter and who is 16 . She will only have had 1 jab (and there is no set date/uk gov plans for a second) Can anyone tell me whether she can go or will she have to self-isolate . The information talks about being fully vaccinated but in this country for that age group that means 1 not 2 jabs unlike USA. No clear guidance is available - are they saying that Children can't go to the USA at the moment unless they have had 2 jabs ? Cant believe that is the case but cant seem to find the answer . Help !

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Lemondrizzzzle · 09/11/2021 08:54

Thanks everyone. I will contact the resort that we’re staying at and look at the other options too.

natwesty · 09/11/2021 11:05

We're hoping to travel to California next month - both fully vaccinated UK citizens with our unvaccinated 8 year old (also UK citizen).

I can see we all need to do a supervised test up to 3 days before (although found the CDC information very confusing and only confirmed we didn't need a 1 day test for my 8 year old in the FAQs!!).

It appears the 3-5 day test once we're there is only recommended rather than compulsory, but I can't find any official source that confirms that is the case for my daughter.

Can anyone else find official confirmation that the 3-5 day test isn't compulsory for u 18's accompanied by fully vaccinated adults?

Travelling to USA Covid regulations
Travelling to USA Covid regulations
MeridasMum · 09/11/2021 11:15

@natwesty

We're hoping to travel to California next month - both fully vaccinated UK citizens with our unvaccinated 8 year old (also UK citizen).

I can see we all need to do a supervised test up to 3 days before (although found the CDC information very confusing and only confirmed we didn't need a 1 day test for my 8 year old in the FAQs!!).

It appears the 3-5 day test once we're there is only recommended rather than compulsory, but I can't find any official source that confirms that is the case for my daughter.

Can anyone else find official confirmation that the 3-5 day test isn't compulsory for u 18's accompanied by fully vaccinated adults?

We're in a similar situation, travelling next month with 8-yr old twins.

From what I have read (and I'm still reading) we all need a test before we go AND the kids need a test within 3-5 days of arrival as they are not vaccinated

LaCerbiatta · 09/11/2021 11:24

I was booked to fly yesterday. Had covid 2 weeks ago, now recovered, and was planning to show the NHS covid certificate for recovery. It was not accepted, not considered official enough 🙄. A letter signed by GP is needed. Too late for me but hope it helps someone.

This was a work trip so not as dramatic as if it was a holiday I paid for, still all very upsetting...

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 09/11/2021 12:51

@natwesty

We're hoping to travel to California next month - both fully vaccinated UK citizens with our unvaccinated 8 year old (also UK citizen).

I can see we all need to do a supervised test up to 3 days before (although found the CDC information very confusing and only confirmed we didn't need a 1 day test for my 8 year old in the FAQs!!).

It appears the 3-5 day test once we're there is only recommended rather than compulsory, but I can't find any official source that confirms that is the case for my daughter.

Can anyone else find official confirmation that the 3-5 day test isn't compulsory for u 18's accompanied by fully vaccinated adults?

The CDC info is really confusing isn't it?

I believe the main thing you have to do is complete and sign an attestation form - which right now looks like this.

www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/combined-passenger-attestation-p.pdf

The relevant bits if you have kids

SECTION 1 PART 4

4. [ ] On behalf of [_], I attest that this person is between 2 and 17 years of age, is not fully vaccinated against COVID-19, and received a negative pre-departure test result for COVID- 19. The test was a viral test that was conducted on a specimen collected from the person no more than 3 days before the flight’s departure and this person is traveling with a fully vaccinated parent(s) or guardian(s).

SECTION 2 PART 2

Tick this bit

Child under 18 years of age (complete section 4 and sign the form to complete the Attestation).

SECTION 2 PART 4

4. [ ] I attest that I have made the following arrangements (must check all boxes).
To be tested with a COVID-19 viral test 3-5 days after arriving in the United States, unless I have documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 in the past 90 days; and
To self-isolate if the result of the post-arrival viral test is positive or if I develop COVID-19 symptoms.
Form OMB Control No.: 0920-1318 Expiration date: 05/31/2022
[ ] On behalf of [___], I attest that such person is excepted from the requirement to present Proof of Being Fully Vaccinated Against COVID-19 and has made or has had the following arrangements made on their behalf (must check all boxes).
Testing with a COVID-19 viral test 3-5 days after arriving in the United States, unless such person has documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 in the past 90 days;
and
Self-isolation if the result of the person’s post-arrival viral test is positive or if the person develops COVID-19 symptoms.

The usual warnings are at the top of the form:

The information provided below must be accurate and complete to the best of the individual’s knowledge. Under United States federal law, each passenger must complete the applicable portion of the attestation and provide it to the airline or aircraft operator prior to boarding a flight to the United States from a foreign country. Failure to complete and present the applicable portion of the attestation or submitting false or misleading information, could result in delay of travel, denial of boarding, denial of boarding on future travel, or put the passenger or other individuals at risk of harm, including serious bodily injury or death. Any passenger who fails to comply with these requirements may be subject to criminal penalties. Willfully providing false or misleading information may lead to criminal fines and imprisonment under, among others, 18 U.S.C. § 1001. Providing this information can help protect you, your friends and family, your communities, and the United States. CDC appreciates your cooperation.

So... personally I'd fill it in and book those test, then complete the tests after arriving as instructed. But if you didn't complete the tests it might be fine - it may be that no one ever actually checks. My experience with US immigration is that it's by far best always to jump through the hoops they present.

Of course, between now and when you travel the rules could and probably will change.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 09/11/2021 12:53

@LaCerbiatta

I was booked to fly yesterday. Had covid 2 weeks ago, now recovered, and was planning to show the NHS covid certificate for recovery. It was not accepted, not considered official enough 🙄. A letter signed by GP is needed. Too late for me but hope it helps someone.

This was a work trip so not as dramatic as if it was a holiday I paid for, still all very upsetting...

I'm sorry - that sucks! It's such a crapshoot, isn't it?
ZZTopGuitarSolo · 09/11/2021 12:58

I'm curious to hear from anyone who does take kids to the US if the airline asks to see evidence that you've booked those 3 day post-travel tests.

Right now to go to the UK you have to actually show details of that booking - which hasn't been particularly onerous tbh.

natwesty · 09/11/2021 13:48

@ZZTopGuitarSolo - thank you so much for the pdf link!

I'm thinking if we buy an extra lateral flow test (the same as our pre-departure tests) that should meet the requirements :)

Zippy1510 · 09/11/2021 13:52

We are travelling next week. Two vaccinated adults and a unvaccinated 4 y old and 7 month old. My understanding is both adults and the 4 y old need a negative LFT up to 3 days before boarding, once there the 4 y old must have a 3-5 day post travel LFT and it is recommended the two adults have one but it’s not compulsory. Then when we return the two adults need to have a day 2 LFT.

natwesty · 09/11/2021 15:54

@Zippy1510 I'd be keen to hear how you get on.

Are you booking the 3-5 day test for your 4 yr old at at a clinic or taking a test with you? I've found it so hard to try and book a test at a clinic for non-US residents and prices were through the roof, so I'm hoping my approach of taking a US approved test with us is a potential solution. Hope all goes well for you!!

LaCerbiatta · 09/11/2021 16:21

Yes it is, trying to keep it in perspective and not be too upset but am pretty down about it. Especially after unpacking today and thinking about all the time I spend planning and preparing ☹

Starlightstarbright1 · 09/11/2021 18:55

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ZZTopGuitarSolo · 10/11/2021 00:02

[quote natwesty]@ZZTopGuitarSolo - thank you so much for the pdf link!

I'm thinking if we buy an extra lateral flow test (the same as our pre-departure tests) that should meet the requirements :)[/quote]
I honestly don't know, but hopefully by the time you go it will have been clarified. Logically it makes sense, but I'm not sure logic has played much part in developing the rules...

Zippy1510 · 10/11/2021 05:25

@fretting123 or anyone else who travelled recently. Was your pre departure antigen test supervised in person, supervised by video link or done at home in supervised? The CDC suggests the previous two are required but I’ve had a colleague fly yesterday with the latter. They used the VeriFLY app and all was approved pre flight.

Zippy1510 · 10/11/2021 05:25

Home unsupervised*

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 10/11/2021 13:31

Parents and DH all did tests in person. It was quick and easy.

It’s risky doing a home unsupervised test. You might get away with it but it doesn’t meet requirements.

Having it approved on Verifly doesn’t guarantee it will be ok. My parents were asked to show printouts of everything even though they’d used Verifly. The check in agents were double checking everything.

Also FYI people are now being randomly checked on arrival in the US - that seems to be a new thing.

Other feedback about travel right now - expect long check-in queues but it seems like the arrivals process is going fairly quickly and smoothly at most US international airports.

fretting123 · 10/11/2021 14:06

[quote Zippy1510]@fretting123 or anyone else who travelled recently. Was your pre departure antigen test supervised in person, supervised by video link or done at home in supervised? The CDC suggests the previous two are required but I’ve had a colleague fly yesterday with the latter. They used the VeriFLY app and all was approved pre flight.[/quote]
No, not supervised at all. We did a lateral flow ordered from Chronomics. Just had to upload photo of the test result.

Zippy1510 · 10/11/2021 16:23

Thanks everyone! I’ve had a work colleague get away with a non supervised today but as you say it’s a risk as the cdc says it has to be supervised. Having said that they also say FDA approved and when you look up that list it doesn’t seem to be the brands the Uk test providers are using- at least with collinson and eurofins. Hope everyone enjoys their trips.

NotJustACigar · 15/11/2021 15:40

Hi, I'm flying to the States to finally see my elderly dad after over 2 years apart. I'm fully vaccinated and my flight leaves at 1pm on Saturday. Does that mean I can get an antigen test after 1pm in Wednesday to meet the requirements, or does it need to be within 72 hours of when I land, does anyone know please? Also are the Boots antigen tests pretty good for definitely getting the results on time and if not where's best that's relatively cheap please? Thanks for and advice.

Chenga · 15/11/2021 15:44

It’s “three days” rather than 72 hours, just to simplify things, so you should be fine any time on Wednesday.

If you’re doing a rapid test, make sure it complies with the US regulations (usually ones done with a supervisor over Zoom, for example). I can’t comment on the Boots ones but hopefully someone else here can. The result for rapid tests are instant, you’ll get them sent to you as soon as the supervisor verifies your test.

Chenga · 15/11/2021 15:45

Three days before you depart, sorry. Not land.

NotJustACigar · 15/11/2021 15:52

Thanks @chenga. I'm flying virgin atlantic and I've just seen it looks like they've partnered with Prenetics who offer discounts and observed at home antigen tests. Looks like I can get my fit to fly and day 2 for £44 total. Unless anyone has any knowledge as to why not to go with them please.

Chenga · 15/11/2021 19:53

@NotJustACigar

Thanks *@chenga*. I'm flying virgin atlantic and I've just seen it looks like they've partnered with Prenetics who offer discounts and observed at home antigen tests. Looks like I can get my fit to fly and day 2 for £44 total. Unless anyone has any knowledge as to why not to go with them please.
Go with them if your airline is recommending. When you check-in, they’re more concerned about the date on it and the negative result than the accuracy but they’re well within their rights to do a thorough check so you might as well have the correct one for a relatively small amount of money in the scheme of things.
Campfirewood · 24/11/2021 14:54

@NotJustACigar we're flying to America with Virgin, would you recommend Prenetics?

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