Which countries don’t require quarantine if you travel from Spain

[Kerry987]

Hi

I need to travel to Spain for family reasons. Can I return through another country that doesn’t require people to quarantine if you travel from Spain, spending a week there to reduce the quarantine in the UK to one week.

Are there any countries which don’t require quarantine if you travel from Spain at the moment?

Thank you

Why would you even try to do that? The rules are in place for a reason and the longer that people try to get around loopholes, the longer the whole thing will go on.

She’s proposing to wait 2 weeks before returning to the UK. There’s no loophole.

What’s the difference between going to another country or coming home and quarantining? You will still need to take the time off work

The situation is changing all the time, what’s possible now quite possibly won’t be in a week’s time. It would be better to plan so that you can quarantine here when you come back.

Maybe Germany depending on the part of Spain. Check the Robert Koch Institut website.

I imagine the point is not having to spend two weeks staringb at the walls of her house. I can work from home so could be anywhere but would much rather not be stuck in my house!

I don't have any need to leave the country but I understand if you can locate somewhere where you aren't b breaking their rules it seems like a good option especially if you're not visiting an outbreak area.

Chunkyknit, as Blackcurrent says it's not a loophole, what the OP is suggesting/investigating is perfectly allowable under the HMG self isolation rules..

" If you travel from an exempt country but have been in a country that is not exempt within the last 14 days, you will need to self-isolate for the remainder of the 14 days since you were last in a non-exempt country."

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-how-to-self-isolate-when-you-travel-to-the-uk/coronavirus-covid-19-how-to-self-isolate-when-you-travel-to-the-uk

Thank you.

The area where I need to go in Spain is not the main area where the outbreak is. I am working from home, won’t be exposing myself a lot in the other country but don’t want to get stuck 24/7 for 2 weeks

Possibly Croatia?

The guidance on the Gov website is very clear on this...

"Example of when you would need to self-isolate
You are in a country that is not on the travel corridor exempt list. You travel to a country that is on the list and you stay there for 4 days from the day after you arrive. You then travel to England.

When you get to England, you will need to self-isolate for 10 days, not the usual 14 days. That is because you have spent 4 of the 14 days in a country that is on the exempt list."

www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-travel-corridors

It's up to you to find an appropriate third country on the exempt list, but I think the end result will still be spending 14 days in quarantine, just in two different countries. No overall gain, except an extra flight to potentially catch Covid on and a two different coloured walls to stare at.

It's up to you to find an appropriate third country on the exempt list, but I think the end result will still be spending 14 days in quarantine, just in two different countries.

No it doesn't work like that if the intermediate country doesn't have a quarantine requirement for individuals arriving from the country of origin and is also a country that is on the UK's exempt list.

In that case the traveller can depart country A, go to the intermediate country and socialise normally, whist at the same time letting the clock on Uk quarantine run down. At some point they can then go to the UK and isolate for any balance of the 14 days remaining.

No it doesn't work like that if the intermediate country doesn't have a quarantine requirement for individuals arriving from the country of origin and is also a country that is on the UK's exempt list.

I know what it it says.. but what you suggest only works if you can find a third country that fulfils both of those requirements. I can't see an obvious one. The ones I've very quickly checked are requiring a combination of "essential travel only", and/or negative Covid test and/or health certificate, and/or quarantine (10-14 days).

If you can fin a route that doesn't involve split-quarantine, don't keep it to yourself... speak up..

But you'd risk that country being added to the list, Greece and Croatia might be added with minimal notice.

I know what it it says

So we now are agreed that the HMG rules do in fact allow the "clock" to be run down in an intermediate country on and that the UK does not demand quarantine in that intermediate count if it is on the safe list?

if you can find a third country that fulfils both of those requirements.

Having established the theory we are now moving on to the reality and finding a third country is down to the OP or anybody else planning to do the same, not me - but they certainly did exist.

So we now are agreed that the HMG rules do in fact allow the "clock" to be run down in an intermediate country on and that the UK does not demand quarantine in that intermediate count if it is on the safe list?
Which I did acknowledge in my first post.

What can't be done, by any means, is reducing the fortnight from once you leave Spain until the end of quarantine in the UK.

So... to make my original point crystal clear... unless you've something useful to do in the third country, what's the point? You're just staring at the walls in a third country rather than in your own home in the UK. That there does not appear to be a third country that meets the requirements, it's all rather moot.

Germany doesn’t have a quarantine. You just take a test at the airport if you come from high risk areas/countries.

Doginatent the OP is clearly looking for a third country where she isn’t just staring at the same walls. That’s the whole point of the thread.

When Spain first went into lockdown, people who were on holiday in Spain were traveling to France, having a two week holiday with no restrictions and then returning to the UK, this was being promoted on This Morning.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3979280-Corona-virus-Simon-Calder-and-This-Morning-irresponsible

@ArfArfBarf

Germany doesn’t have a quarantine. You just take a test at the airport if you come from high risk areas/countries.

"Germany has declared nearly all of Spain, including the island of Mallorca, as risky areas following a spike of coronavirus cases in the south European country. Only the Canary Islands — which lie off the coast of North Africa — are exempted. Travelers returning from high-risk areas would be required to undergo testing and wait for the result in self-isolation which would last for up to two weeks." www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-digest-germany-issues-fresh-warning-over-travel-to-spain/a-54562496

Well no one I know in Germany has had to wait anywhere near that long for their results.