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Holidays with Evening Childcare?

32 replies

FuzzyPeachandMoodRings · 26/08/2019 13:07

Does anyone else know any resorts or companies who provide evening kids clubs like Mark Warner do please? My children LOVE them as they feel all grown up going 'out' on their own partying (obvs with nannies etc!) Of course I'll selflessly go and have an adult meal too Grin

Can't seem to find any others. I know Neilson do it but only a couple of days a week. Thank you!

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SJane48S · 26/08/2019 17:17

Are you looking for somewhere that has childcare then every evening as well as presumably childcare during the day (as I assume the children want shot of you then too & selflessly you'll do them a favour and stick on a lounger?). Can't think of any. I did a Mark Warner about 22 years ago and remember the parents hiding from the kids when they were out for a walk just in case their children saw them and god forbid, wanted to spend some time with them. This is hugely judgy....wanting to pack your kids off every evening does sound a pretty crap thing to do though. I really don't care how busy anyone's life is, frankly whose isnt?

iklboo · 26/08/2019 17:25

This is hugely judgy....wanting to pack your kids off every evening does sound a pretty crap thing to do though. I really don't care how busy anyone's life is, frankly whose isnt?

We had to bribe beg DS not to go to evening kids clubs every night when we went on cruises. He said it was much more fun than spending time with us.

Invisimamma · 26/08/2019 17:31

First choice holiday villages usually do a 6pm-9pm kids club session.

SJane48S · 26/08/2019 17:31

Did he also go into day clubs? I’m not against kids clubs or having a night out but the Mark Warner ethos of holidaying separately to your children I think is a bit questionable when some parents literally use it 24/7 - I appreciate some don’t! Neither of my DDs have liked kids club (which yes, I’ve tried) - the last one my youngest was in, she and a friend simply walked out of and wandered unsupervised around the resort grounds. What I’m saying is, I think a balance is better. Quite simply otherwise, it’s not really a family holiday!

Invisimamma · 26/08/2019 17:32

Holiday villages did things like pizza party night, movie night and chocolate buffet. They maybe ran 3 evenings out of 7 but maybe more at larger resorts, worth checking out.

Mine refuse to go to kids club, I think they are missing out!

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 26/08/2019 17:35

From what I'm told there's a lot of this on cruises. Good independence and friendship for the kids.

JoanieCash · 26/08/2019 17:35

We did a club med ski trip that had options for kids entertainment until 9pm. The kids loved it- we all ate together, then they ran downstairs for disco, films, games with other kids and we could finish our dinner and then all head to bed relatively early, ready for another day....

Cherryblossomtrees · 26/08/2019 17:40

SJane why did you comment if you just want to make the OP feel bad? Was it just to make yourself feel a bit superior? That's quite sad. You don't know the OP or her children or their preferences. Your life is not her life and your rules of what's acceptable don't need to apply to others.

Onatreebyariver · 26/08/2019 17:44

Bloody hell god forbid some of your kids have a social life outside of you, or the confidence to try new things and meet new people! My kids are outgoing, friendly, secure and absolutely love spreading their wings in a safe environment without mummy hovering over them to blow their nose.

I pity these children who are being attached forcefully to the apron strings as some sort of comfort blanket to the parents who can't bare them to spend a few hours a YEAR in a kids club learning how to sail, kayak, play pool games, socialise, compete in dance shows etc etc.

Yes I'm being judgy that you're so needy and pathetic around your children. But you all started it!

SJane48S · 26/08/2019 17:46

No, I just don’t like the concept of packing your kids off every evening a la Mark Warner. Nothing to do with superiority. Do you have personally any more helpful advice for the OP Cherry or just stopping by to tell me off?!

SJane48S · 26/08/2019 17:48

You what @Onatreebyariver?!

SJane48S · 26/08/2019 17:53

My eldest DD from the age of 9 was flying on her own (as an unaccompanied minor) to Canada every summer to spend 2 weeks with her ex SM. My children have had the option of going in kids clubs, didn’t like them & preferred to come out & actually see some of the country we’d crossed oceans to come to. I’m so glad your children are so exceptionally well rounded as the result of kids clubs, mine might perhaps have seen a bit more of the bloody world though. (Tied to apron strings, wtf!)

Mothersruin123 · 26/08/2019 18:52

I think Neilson do evening childcare more than a couple of nights a week but you'll have to pay a little extra for it. Not much though from memory...we used it at their Croatia resort last year. My DD made some lovely little friends, was introduced to lots of experiences, and given the option (which she wasn't always) would have preferred "sleep club" to dinner and bedtime with mum and dad. We've travelled with Neilson a number of times and in my experience the nannies are brilliant with kids of all ages and build real bonds with them over the course of the week. Much better than any of the other kids clubs we've tried (and as a result sometimes elected not to use) on alternative holidays.

TurnOffTheTv · 26/08/2019 18:57

Cruises have childcare till 10 then they charge after that till very late. Our kids all loved them

pumkinspicetime · 26/08/2019 19:02

We stayed in a Fairmont hotel that had an evening kids club. Ours went a couple of times, they ate pizza and popcorn and watched films.
We had an adult meal and massage.
It was very pleasant for all.

chamenanged · 26/08/2019 19:08

My eldest DD from the age of 9 was flying on her own (as an unaccompanied minor) to Canada every summer to spend 2 weeks with her ex SM

This is not the great I'm-a-better-mother-than-you shutdown you think it is Grin

SJane48S · 26/08/2019 19:25

I’m not saying it makes me a better mother dear, it’s in direct response to the attached forcibly to the apron strings comment. Nor does it make me a bad mother @charmenaged so check yourself!

SJane48S · 26/08/2019 19:37

I’m also assuming you understand that being an unaccompanied minor is an airline escort service with very very tight security? It’s not waving a fond farewell at Gatwick & hoping for the best which the level of response you’ve given seems to assume?!

chamenanged · 26/08/2019 19:54

You know what they say about dishing it out...

SJane48S · 26/08/2019 20:04

Indeed! So what do your comments labelling someone you don't know a bad mother (which I havent at any point said to the OP, I've said I don't like the Mark Warner system. Nor have I said I'm completely against kids clubs!) over something you quite c!early had no understanding of do you think says about you as a human being? It's about as low as you can get.

AnneElliott · 26/08/2019 20:30

Family cruises will offer this op - P&O definitely do.

FuzzyPeachandMoodRings · 26/08/2019 20:31

Ummmm no sure what I've started here Confused but that's so much for the helpful (and protective Flowers) replies, really appreciated.

They have the option to go or not go to the clubs, and half the day they will choose to be with us usually but on the whole they thoroughly enjoy and embrace the amazing experiences and social opportunities.

The point is, they eat dinner with us every night at home, I want to give them the holiday excitement/change of scene that they want too. If that's having parties and excitement with new friends, rather than sitting sensibly at a table with olds, good on them Wink

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Onatreebyariver · 26/08/2019 20:32

well you shipped your kid off for 2 weeks childcare alone in a foreign country. All these parents are doing is using a few hours childcare in the country where the parent is.

I've really never heard anyone be so insanely judgemental. Do your children attend school? swimming lessons? dance class? Anything? Or are you attached to them the whole time to prove your superiority as a parent?

SJane48S · 27/08/2019 03:19

Talking about being ‘insanely judgemental’ it’s best not to be ‘insanely judgemental’ @Onatreebyariver. I ‘shipped’ my DD off to Canada to stay with her ex SM as I’ve said along with her little half brother, neither of whom she would have seen otherwise again. So no, not for the free childcare and I’m pretty surprised that’s it’s not obvious why I might have thought this was a good idea for my DD to have a continuous relationship with close family. And yes, multiple clubs, including scouts which does include very regular weekend camp outs. So no, not looking to keep my precious little babies with me 24/7 - that’s also quite ridiculous.

Going back to what I actually have said, I have done a Mark Warner holiday, 22 years ago. OP, I appreciate that you aren’t utilising the on tap childcare everyday, all the time and hands up it was judgy to assume you might be based on wanting the potential of evening clubs every day - apologies. I do appreciate as well that not all parents stick their kids into the Mark Warner clubs every day, all day with the occasional hour or two with them. But my experience from my holiday was that quite a lot did. This is something completely different from using a kids club for a couple of hours @Onatreebyariver, something I’ve clearly said I’ve nothing against! I get that in the older age groups, there are the opportunities to do sailing and the like. For the younger children however other than a few walks out, they were doing nursery style activities, colouring in etc. I did genuinely see parents hiding from their children when they were walked past on a stroll, so that their kids wouldn’t call out to them and potentially be upset. One woman was gratuitously horrible to her 6 year old on the coach to the resort and was first in line as soon as the club opened virtually every single morning and couldn’t seem to wait to get rid of her between club times.

For those of you who’s kids do genuinely like the Mark Warner almost round the clock kids clubs style holiday, great. I did see children who quite clearly didn’t. Everyone has very different ideas obviously of how they want to spend their holiday, mine’s about exposing my DC to as much of the place they are going to as possible. And no, that’s not because I’m so damn morally superior, it’s what as an ex pat brat I was brought up to do, going out to see and experience where you are. I appreciate that my initial comment was judgemental (and even said so!), I don’t think many of you have actually read what I’ve actually said though and have just read this as an attack on anyone ever using a kids club, it wasn’t and isn’t!

TantricTwist · 27/08/2019 03:38

I've had 3 Mark Warner holidays. My DC were around 4/5 years old the first time. We stopped going when they hit 8/9 ish.

There wasn't a child there who didn't love it, there wasn't a parent there who didn't put their kids in the evening creche (well if there was I never met one). All the DC seemed to love it and appeared very happy. Parents got to have a fun relaxing evening with each other having met via the DC during the day. The DC would sleep at the creche after watching a movie, wifi was rubbish back then so a movie was much looked forward to and they would all be put to sleep in rows of little beds by the nursery staff. Very cute when picking them up. And very safe with little wrist bands on etc and with code words for each child.

I have a feeling Tui have a 'Family life' sector of resorts / hotels who have a similar type of thing but not every night like MW do and MW do it very well. I loved their holidays.

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